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I know that a council can suspend a drivers license under section 61 of the 1976 act and the driver can continue to work pending an appeal, but what was the section whereby they can immediately suspend a drivers license so that he can't drive immediately?

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I know that a council can suspend a drivers license under section 61 of the 1976 act and the driver can continue to work pending an appeal, but what was the section whereby they can immediately suspend a drivers license so that he can't drive immediately?


I think it's section 52

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I know that a council can suspend a drivers license under section 61 of the 1976 act and the driver can continue to work pending an appeal, but what was the section whereby they can immediately suspend a drivers license so that he can't drive immediately?

It was/is part of the 2006 Road Safety Act, the same act that stopped many Limo abuses.

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Suspension of taxi drivers’ licences


The law

By s.61(1) Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 ‘a district council may suspend or revoke… or refuse to renew the licence of the driver of a hackney carriage or a private hire vehicle’ on the grounds (a) that he has since the grant of the licence been convicted of an offence involving dishonesty, indecency or violence or (b) any other reasonable cause.

'Any other reasonable cause' is generally taken to mean something that may lead the authority to consider that the driver is no longer a fit and proper person to hold a drivers' licence – to grant a drivers' licence the authority must be satisfied 'that the applicant is a fit and proper person' (by s.51 for PHVs and s.59 for hackney carriages).

It has been suggested that 'any other reasonable cause' extends beyond a simple consideration of whether the evidence suggests that the driver continues to satisfy the fit and proper person criterion. For example, it may be considered in the interests of public safety that a person who has been charged with a serious criminal offence should not be allowed to continue as a taxi driver. However, in order to be able to conclude that it is against the public interest for a driver to continue to operate as a taxi driver there would need to be a consideration of the risk posed by the driver – in other words a consideration of whether the person is considered fit and proper to hold a driver's licence.

If 'any reasonable cause' was interpreted to mean other than 'fit and proper' it would put a driver facing action under s.61(1) in a worse position than a new applicant for a licence who must satisfy the fit and proper person criterion. The better view must be that 'any other reasonable cause' under s.61(1)(b) simply extends s.61(1)(a) to include matters other than a criminal conviction for the offences specified in that subsection. For example, charges being laid, a failed prosecution or a criminal matter not involving dishonesty, indecency or violence (such as drink-driving).

The practice

Councils may come into possession of information that raises concerns as to whether a person holding a taxi driver's licence remains a fit and proper person. For example, the council may have been informed that a driver has been charged with a serious criminal offence. The practice of a number of councils has been to suspend the driver’s licence under s.61 in order to allow a full investigation into the matter to be conducted and to consider at a later date what action, including revocation, should be taken.

R (application of Singh) v Cardiff City Council [2012] EWCH 1852 (Admin)

This decision now seems to make such an approach unlawful as Singh J decided that s.61 does not confer a power of interim suspension: "it is rather after a considered determination … a final decision on whether a ground for either revocation, or suspension of a licence is made out"(para.103). So suspension is a sanction and cannot be used as an administrative measure to allow an authority to investigate matters: "it is not, as it were, a protective or holding power. It is a power of final suspension, as alternative to a power of final revocation" (para.105). So it is a final determination on the fitness and propriety of the driver and, as such, appealable.

This is the case whether the suspension is made under s.61(1) or if deemed necessary for public safety under s.61(2B) where the suspension takes place with immediate effect rather than 21 days after notice is given. Note also that if a suspension or revocation is made under s.61(1) and an appeal is lodged within the 21 days the suspension or revocation does not take effect until the appeal is abandoned or determined.

Practice after Singh

A council on receiving information which causes concern over whether a taxi driver is a fit and proper person will need to have delegated powers and a policy framework in place to enable it to take action quickly and without delay. This was good practice even before Singh.

The difference post-Singh is that the action that is taken by the council can no longer be an interim step pending a fuller investigation with a final adjudicated at a later date. The council must therefore approach the matter in the same way that it would approach a final determination – because it is a final determination.

There will have to be a full consideration of the available evidence and the driver should be given the opportunity to state his or her case. The council must then weigh the evidence and decide how to exercise its discretion. If a period of suspension is imposed, it cannot be extended or changed to revocation at a later date.

However, while the determination is a ‘final’ one, it is a determination based on the evidence available to the council at the time it made the determination. New evidence may, of course, become available at a later date.

New evidence may be adduced at an appeal leading the appeal court to a determination different to that reached by the council or an appeal may be settled by agreement between the council and the driver on terms which, in the light of subsequent evidence, becomes the appropriate course.

If, for example, the allegations against the driver were unfounded, a suspension could be lifted and if the licence was revoked, an expedited re-licensing process used (if the council has formulated one).

When to suspend

The pre-Singh practice of suspension of a licence pending the outcome of serious criminal charges may have been a reasonable one and was clearly a useful tool for councils to use. Now that suspension can no longer be used in this way when would suspension be an appropriate sanction? Can suspension be used as a punishment?

If on a consideration of the evidence the council decides that the driver can no longer be considered a fit and proper person then revocation would seem appropriate. The more serious the conduct, the more likely this will be.

However, Singh J suggests that suspension may be appropriate "even if misconduct has been established" if something "less than complete revocation" is appropriate and suspension "will constitute sufficient sanction in the interests of the public" (para.104). What does this mean?

It is clear that the aim of suspension is to protect the public (Leeds City Council v Hussain [2002]). It is not to punish the driver. Punishment in the form of retribution (legally sanctioned revenge) is therefore not a proper use of suspension. Retribution is backward looking and its aim is no more than to give the driver his or her just deserts for their conduct ('an eye for an eye').

Other purposes of punishment – variously termed utilitarian, reductive or corrective – look to the future and have a positive aim. Most appropriate when considering suspension of taxi drivers' licences are 'corrective' measures aimed at the driver. This may entail the driver attending a driver training course or other improving measure (rehabilitation) or the sanction of suspension operating as an individual deterrent against future misconduct by the driver.

The public interest is not in seeing a driver punished for his conduct as this is not the function of the licensing regime. The licensing regime is concerned with protection of the public. If a sanction by way of suspension is imposed the aim is to ensure that the drivers' conduct will not be repeated.

Therefore, if on the evidence, the conduct of the driver has not been that of a fit and proper person but revocation is seen as a disproportionate response it may be considered that a period of suspension will serve to deter the driver from misconduct in the future and so render him or her once again a fit and proper person.

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Letter: Changes to Taxi and Private Hire Vehicle Legislation in the Road Safety Act 2006



David Farmer
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Our ref: BAT 7/12/022

28 February 2007

Dear Sir/Madam,

Changes to Taxi and Private Hire Vehicle (PHV) Legislation in the Road Safety Act 2006

1. I am writing to you about the commencement dates for the taxi/private hire vehicle (PHV) measures in the Road Safety Act 2006.

2. In summary:

• Section 52 (power to suspend or revoke a driver's licence with immediate effect) will come into force on 16 March 2007.

• Section 53 (repeal of the contract exemption outside London) will come into force in January 2008.

• Section 54 (re-defining "private hire vehicle" in the Private Hire Vehicles (London) Act 1998) will come into force by 31 March 2008 at the latest.

3. This letter is being sent to all local authorities in England and Wales, principal stakeholders and those who expressed an interest during the passage of the Bill or subsequently. A second copy of the letter is enclosed with all Chief Executives' letters; this should be passed to the Taxi Licensing Officer.

Background

4. Taxi and PHV licensing in England and Wales is carried out by district/borough councils and unitary authorities outside London and by Transport for London (TfL) in London. Ministers took the view that the legislative framework within which licensing authorities carry out their licensing duties contained three significant safety risks and decided that they would use the opportunity presented by the Road Safety Bill to address these risks.

5. Set out below is a description of what the risks were that needed to be addressed, how the law is being changed with regard to each of the three issues and when each of the three sections will be commenced.

Power to suspend or revoke a driver's licence with immediate effect

6. At present, a taxi or PHV driver (outside London) can continue to work as a taxi or PHV driver whilst appealing to the magistrates court against a decision by the local licensing authority to suspend or revoke his taxi or PHV driver's licence.

7. Section 52 of the Road Safety Act gives licensing authorities the power to suspend or revoke a taxi or PHV driver's licence with immediate effect where they are of the opinion that the interests of public safety require such a course of action.

8. Section 52 will be commenced on 16 March 2007. This means that licensing authorities can only start to use the power in relation to decisions to suspend or revoke which are made on or after 16 March; they cannot use the power in relation to suspension or revocation decisions which had been made before that date. The section applies outside London; TfL already have similar powers in London.

9. It will be a matter for individual local licensing authorities to determine how they wish to make use of this new power. The Department has not issued any guidance on this issue. However, Ministers will keep under review whether general guidance to authorities on the use of this new power would be appropriate or necessary.

Repeal of the contract exemption

10. At present, in England and Wales (outside London) a vehicle is exempt from the requirement to be licensed as a PHV if it is used for contracts lasting not less than seven days. This is commonly known as "the contract exemption". Neither the driver of the vehicle nor the operator who arranges hirings need be licensed.

11. Ministers decided that this exemption posed a significant safety risk and should be repealed. Section 53 of the Road Safety Act repeals the contract exemption.

12. Section 53 of the Act will be commenced in January 2008.

13. Following Royal Assent to the Bill, the Department sought the views of principal stakeholders on the timing of the commencement date of this provision. Ministers regard the repeal of the contract exemption as necessary for public safety and would wish to see it come into force as soon as possible. However they took account of representations which argued that there is a need to leave an appropriate period before coming into force to allow currently unlicensed drivers, vehicles and operators to be licensed or for alternative contract arrangements to be made where necessary.

14. Ministers are though keen to see PHVs currently covered by the exemption brought within the licensing regime without delay. They therefore urge all the parties involved to take early steps to achieve this, so that as many contractors as possible are licensed even before this becomes mandatory in January 2008. When the relevant Commencement Order has been made, information about the specific date will be placed on the Department's web-site.

15. From the date of commencement, any vehicle which falls within the definition of "private hire vehicle" in the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 1 must be licensed by the council in which the person who arranges the bookings is located (known in the legislation as the "controlled district"). Any person who drives a licensed PHV must hold a PHV driver's licence and any person who arranges hirings using a licensed PHV must hold a PHV operator licence. The only exemptions from licensing will be for vehicles used solely for weddings and funerals.

16. Any vehicle proprietor or operator who is in any doubt about whether the vehicles which he owns or operates should be licensed as PHVs should, in the first instance, discuss the matter with the local licensing authority (the district/borough council or unitary authority) and, if necessary, seek advice from an independent legal adviser. I should stress that the Department is not able to provide legal advice about individual cases.

Changing the definition of "private hire vehicle" in London

17. At present, the Private Hire Vehicles (London) Act 1998 defines a private hire vehicle as "a vehicle constructed or adapted to seat fewer than nine passengers which is made available with a driver to the public for hire for the purpose of carrying passengers, other than a licensed taxi or a public service vehicle". It became apparent that vehicle owners were avoiding licensing on the basis that their vehicles were not being made available to the public; rather they were being used for a dedicated group or organisation, perhaps on a contract basis.

18. Section 54 of the Road Safety Act amends the definition of private hire vehicle in the 1998 Act by removing the words “to the public” from the current definition. The effect of this amendment will be similar to the effect of the repeal of the contract exemption outside London, namely that additional drivers, operators and vehicles will be brought within the PHV licensing regime. In deciding on the commencement date for this change, Ministers - after consulting TfL - have taken into account the particular practical considerations which arise at this stage of the implementation of PHV licensing in general in London.

19. Section 54 will be commenced by 31 March at the latest. In the autumn we will consider with Transport for London whether there is any scope for commencement at an earlier date. Again, Ministers urge all parties to ensure that PHVs covered by this change are brought within the licensing regime without delay, and before the mandatory date where this is possible. When the relevant Commencement Order has been made, information about the specific date will be placed on the Department's web-site.

20. From the date of commencement, it will be irrelevant whether a vehicle is provided for hire to a dedicated group or to the public at large; any vehicles which fall within the definition of private hire vehicle in the 1998 Act will have to be licensed. The driver and the operator (the person who arranges the hirings) will also have to be licensed. The only exemptions from licensing will be for vehicles used solely for weddings and funerals.

Yours sincerely

David Farmer

1 Private hire vehicle is defined in section 80 of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 as "a motor vehicle constructed or adapted to seat fewer than nine passengers, other than a hackney carriage or public service vehicle or a London cab or a tramcar, which is provided for hire with the services of a driver for the purpose of carrying passengers".

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Thank you Toots and CC.
So assuming that the council have revoked a drivers license under section 52 of the road safety act 2006, the driver can still appeal this revocation but can't drive in the interim period?
I also assume that for a driver who has been convicted of an act of violence and sentenced to 50 hours of unpaid work in the community, he will be unlikely to win such an appeal?

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grandad wrote:
Thank you Toots and CC.
So assuming that the council have revoked a drivers license under section 52 of the road safety act 2006, the driver can still appeal this revocation but can't drive in the interim period?
I also assume that for a driver who has been convicted of an act of violence and sentenced to 50 hours of unpaid work in the community, he will be unlikely to win such an appeal?


the suspension is immediate because the council deems him a threat

if the council knew what he did before the conviction then I would ask why he wasn't suspended at that point - because that was the intention of the change in the law.

the driver can appeal the suspension

you got one sh*tty council

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Section 52 of the Road Safety Act gives licensing authorities the power to suspend or revoke a taxi or PHV driver's licence with immediate effect where they are of the opinion that the interests of public safety require such a course of action.

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captain cab wrote:
grandad wrote:
Thank you Toots and CC.
So assuming that the council have revoked a drivers license under section 52 of the road safety act 2006, the driver can still appeal this revocation but can't drive in the interim period?
I also assume that for a driver who has been convicted of an act of violence and sentenced to 50 hours of unpaid work in the community, he will be unlikely to win such an appeal?


the suspension is immediate because the council deems him a threat

if the council knew what he did before the conviction then I would ask why he wasn't suspended at that point - because that was the intention of the change in the law.

the driver can appeal the suspension

you got one sh*tty council

I am not sure of the timeline in the case. I don't know if the Council were aware of the situation until the case came to court.

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I would suggest that everyone reads the post above where the suspension/revocation procedures are laid out.

It is very confusing and I doubt many councils, let alone drivers, understand it.

In short if they suspend, they can't later revoke for the same matters.

PS. It might be an idea for the captain to put that, and the DfT letter on the legal database forum. :wink:

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Sussex wrote:
I would suggest that everyone reads the post above where the suspension/revocation procedures are laid out.

It is very confusing and I doubt many councils, let alone drivers, understand it.

In short if they suspend, they can't later revoke for the same matters.

PS. It might be an idea for the captain to put that, and the DfT letter on the legal database forum. :wink:

Apparently, the council waited until after the court case. the driver has been given 50 hours community service and the council have suspended his license pending a hearing later this month where they will be seeking to revoke his license.
Now are we saying that the council can't now revoke because they have already suspended? If this is the case I take it that he needs to take a representative with him to this meeting and a copy of the Singh V Cardiff judgement.

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Apparently, the council waited until after the court case


I don't believe this was the intention of the change in the law, although I'm sure your council know what they're doing :lol:

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R (Singh) v Cardiff City Council [2012] EWHC 1852 (Admin)


R (Singh) v Cardiff City Council [2012] EWHC 1852 (Admin)This is the long awaited judgement in the judicial review brought against Cardiff City Council’s penalty point system for taxi drivers.

In brief, the Council adopted a penalty point scheme were different misdemeanours would result in different penalty points being awarded against drivers and once a driver has accumulated 10 penalty points in 3 years their licence would automatically be revoked.

Since the Magistrates’ Court on appeal is obligated in common law to determine the appeal “in the shoes of the Council” (i.e. cannot make any determination based on their opinion that the Council’s policy is erroneous) a judicial review of the policy was made.

The JD application was approved and was heard before Singh J on the 23rd of May 2012 the transcript of which is available on Licensing Resource.

Singh J stated that the introduction and enforcement of penalty point systems are not unlawful in principle.

He stated “A public authority is perfectly entitled to adopt policies which will regulate the exercise of a given discretionary power. In my judgment there is nothing wrong in principle with a licensing authority, such as the present, taking the view that the public interest justifies adopting a policy which would not lead to the suspension or revocation of a driver's licence, for example, for a single incident….there is nothing wrong in principle with the defendant authority such as the present, adopting the policy, which seeks, both in fairness to the driver potentially affected and also to protect the public interest, to have, as it were, a staged process by which the cumulative effect of incidents of misconduct may well lead ultimately to the conclusion that in the judgment of the local authority, a person is not a proper person to continue to enjoy the relevant licence.”

However, he found Cardiff’s particular approach unlawful for three reasons:

1. “The first is that the policy calls for the automatic revocation of a licence if 10 points have been accumulated in a 3 year period. That, on its face, leaves no room for judgment or discretion.” (Para. 74)

2. “The second fundamental defect is that this means that there is no consideration required, or it would appear perhaps even permitted by the policy of the underlying facts which lay behind the earlier imposition of points which a driver may have.” (Para. 76)

3. “The third fundamental defect, in my judgment, again accepting the claimant's submissions in this regard is that the policy does not recognise that the outcome even of concluding that a person is not a fit and proper person is not necessarily revocation, it may be under section 61 the sanction of suspension.” (Para. 78)

On a more important point, Singh J ruled on the question of suspending a driver’s licence under section 61 LG(MP)76 as an interim step pending the outcome of a subsequent investigation.

“In my judgment, the way in which the concept of suspension is used by Parliament is section 61 of the 1976 Act is not… to create a power of interim suspension, it is rather after a considered determination…a final decision on whether a ground for either revocation, or suspension of a licence is made out, for there to be either revocation or, as a lesser sanction, a sanction of suspension.”

This means is would be unlawful for a Council to suspend a driver’s licence as an interim step where, for example, the driver is subject to any form of investigation following an allegation or complaint. Revocation or suspension should only be used as a determination of the (un)fitness of the driver.

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So he was guilty of assault?......

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