Taxi Driver Online

Over the years we have wanted as in London, and Leicester, to have a cab/car demonstration through the City. Unfortunately the police have limited us to something like a maximum of 20 vehicles, and escorted them through the City! As you can imagine a total waste of time from our point of view.

I got to thinking; "Human Rights".

Anyway I came across "Article 11" of the" Human Rights Act" and it seems to give each and everyone of us the right to peacefully demonstrate.

My question is this; Have the police exceeded their powers by stopping us as an "Association/Individuals" from exercising our "Human Rights"? To me it appears that they have denied us the aforementioned........Or have I read it wrong?

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Common sense........is just not that Common.

I think that is something only a legal professional could tell you when it comes to human rights it often takes a very expensive court case to decide the issue

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lack of modern legislation is the iceberg sinking the titanic of the transport sector

I think you will find..no I know you find.....that they have powers under the terrorism Act....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

I am not being argumentative to score points.

Would they not have to justify using the above act! Taxi drivers as such would surely not come under that act, Or for that matter any legal organisation/ association who wished to exercise Union rights.

Looking at this "Article 11": By the police doing what they were doing i.e limiting numbers of protesters, they are in effect stopping as in this case say 200 drivers, from exercising what would appear to be their rights.

Our refusal was a few years ago way before this present terrorism situation.

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Common sense........is just not that Common.

Expands the definition of terrorism. Formerly defined as "violence for political ends", it now includes action, used or threatened, for the purpose of advancing any "political, religious or ideological" cause. In 2008 this was extended to include a "racial" cause. Action is defined as including: violence against a person, damage to property, serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public and behaviour designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system. All subsequent powers for the police and courts flow from this definition.

Terrorism Act 2000 - Legislation.gov.uk

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Have you asked the police to explain to you the power(s) under which they are limiting the numbers? Until you have that information; it will be difficult to understand whether what they are doing is lawful or challengeable.

if you want to organise a demo........pm me...I have done lot's...

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

The Hackney Chairman was served a "Public Order Notice".

I quote from the Chairman -: " Under Public Order Acts section 12 " it was indicated that we did not have the right to block a public carriageway/highway to voice our discontentment with the Council. The aforementioned are the Chairmans words/writing.

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Common sense........is just not that Common.

What's to stop a 'spur of the moment' drive through the city by drivers, organised by no one in particular without the chairman's knowledge ?

As has been suggested in the past....If 200+ drivers drove around with their for hire lights on @ say 20 mph, stopping for a flag as one would, then it wold not take long for chaos to happen on a big scale.

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Common sense........is just not that Common.

Mr.T's recipe for a demo -

First sit down and work out what your grievances are and what you want doing, then get 3 or 4 thousand or so leaflets printed to hand out on the day from your taxis.
Second you contact the local papers and radio stations and arrange for them to travel with you on the day of the demo.
Third, through the local radio, you apologise to the general public for the inconvenience the demonstration will cause and give them plenty of warning of when it will take place.
Fourth, you organise your troops into 3 or 4 different groups which will meet in different areas. Group A notifies the police that they will be holding a demo. They go to the meeting point and start their demonstration with the police escort. Groups B C & D, having been notified that Group A has started, then proceed in convoys to their real destination. Once the confusion starts to take effect the police will abandon the first group and head for the confusion leaving the first group to be able to come in from the back and support the rest of their colleagues. If the police manage to stop the convoys then the drivers' knowledge of the back streets will come in very handy to get them to their objective. Drivers at the front when passing say the Town Hall, or whatever, can circle back and join the rear of the demonstration, at the same time giving out leaflets to the public and a running commentary on the local radio.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

YOUR BEING MUGGED OFF SHEEP DIP

sorry couldn't resist it john anyway you know full well the Local Unite RMT or even GMB would have all relevant info for this malarkey!

Mr T's post is helpful as well on the mechanics of yer demo !

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Freedom of association: Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly. This is a right closely linked to the right to freedom of expression.

It provides a means for public expression and is one of the foundations of a democratic society.

The right applies to protest marches and demonstrations, press conferences, public and private meetings, counter-demonstrations, ‘sit-ins’, motionless protests etc.

The right only applies to peaceful gatherings and does not protect intentionally violent protest.

There may be interference with the right to protest if the authorities prevent a demonstration from going ahead; halt a demonstration; take steps in advance of a demonstration in order to disrupt it; and store personal information on people because of their involvement in a demonstration.

The right to peaceful assembly cannot be interfered with merely because there is disagreement with the views of the protesters or because it is likely to be inconvenient and cause a nuisance or there might be tension and heated exchange between opposing groups.

There is a positive obligation on the State to take reasonable steps to facilitate the right to freedom of assembly, and to protect participants in peaceful demonstrations from disruption by others.

https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk ... ssociation

I don't think the mayor of Leicester sees it this way.

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Grandad,

I think the trade shouldn't be advertising these demos in advance.

Maybe they do to get councillors to give way, but making these demos sort of formal, gives the authorities an upper hand.

If you want a demo just do it. Drive around the center in a circle, as that's never been deemed illegal, and who do the police prosecute and for what?

When the nutty lefties have a demo they never give anyone as an official contact, as that person is deemed as someone with control. The taxi trade should take note from said nutty lefties.

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