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| Author: | Midlife martyr [ Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Hackney Interlopers |
This is quite a hot topic at the moment one way of cutting down is the intended use policy which Rossendale and others are adopting at the moment. I have another suggestion which if legal could stop the problem overnight which is instead of trying to control the drivers why don't the the licensing authorities impose the condition on every one that holds an operators licence in there area that they can only rent radios/data heads to drivers who hold badges in the same area. I would expect the howls of protest from some operators to be ear splitting but to me it would seem to be a perfectly reasonable condition and most importantly clearly in the publics interest. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
I asked NOTE the use of "CURRENTLY" inferring its possibe Quote: A hackney carriage can work out of a private hire base in another borough other than the borough it is licensed in. Currently there is nothing in Walsall Council’s Licensing Conditions that says a Hackney Carriage licensed in Walsall must do the majority of its work in Walsall. As Hackney Carriage ** is working in Lichfield, any offences are taking place in Lichfield over which Walsall Licensing Enforcement doesn’t have any jurisdiction. We are not allowed to ask a base in Lichfield for their records. This comes under the jurisdiction of Lichfield Council’s Licensing Enforcement department. You will have to lodge a complaint with Lichfield Council and it is up to them to decide what action to take. If they do decide to take action and are successful, they can then notify Walsall Council’s Licensing Enforcement department and we would then be able to look at taking the owner of Hackney Carriage ** before Committee who can decide if the said owner is a fit and proper person to hold a hackney carriage licence. Kind Regards, Sounds like - by working out of the LA on a regular basis - the owner might not be "fit & proper"....maybe on the grounds that they took out a plate/badge with no intention of working there?/ |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
Midlife martyr wrote: This is quite a hot topic at the moment one way of cutting down is the intended use policy which Rossendale and others are adopting at the moment. I have another suggestion which if legal could stop the problem overnight which is instead of trying to control the drivers why don't the the licensing authorities impose the condition on every one that holds an operators licence in there area that they can only rent radios/data heads to drivers who hold badges in the same area. I would expect the howls of protest from some operators to be ear splitting but to me it would seem to be a perfectly reasonable condition and most importantly clearly in the publics interest. Can a condition be laid upon a base if that base is wholly hackney? if it held a PH ops licence it could, in theory |
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| Author: | MR T [ Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
wannabeeahack wrote: Midlife martyr wrote: This is quite a hot topic at the moment one way of cutting down is the intended use policy which Rossendale and others are adopting at the moment. I have another suggestion which if legal could stop the problem overnight which is instead of trying to control the drivers why don't the the licensing authorities impose the condition on every one that holds an operators licence in there area that they can only rent radios/data heads to drivers who hold badges in the same area. I would expect the howls of protest from some operators to be ear splitting but to me it would seem to be a perfectly reasonable condition and most importantly clearly in the publics interest. Can a condition be laid upon a base if that base is wholly hackney? if it held a PH ops licence it could, in theory A Hackney base does not need to be licenced.. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
MR T wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: Midlife martyr wrote: This is quite a hot topic at the moment one way of cutting down is the intended use policy which Rossendale and others are adopting at the moment. I have another suggestion which if legal could stop the problem overnight which is instead of trying to control the drivers why don't the the licensing authorities impose the condition on every one that holds an operators licence in there area that they can only rent radios/data heads to drivers who hold badges in the same area. I would expect the howls of protest from some operators to be ear splitting but to me it would seem to be a perfectly reasonable condition and most importantly clearly in the publics interest. Can a condition be laid upon a base if that base is wholly hackney? if it held a PH ops licence it could, in theory A Hackney base does not need to be licenced.. Thats why I said "If it held a PH ops licence" Of course not needing any hackney ops licence for the car isnt the same as not requiring one for the office, which might need planning permission.... |
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| Author: | MR T [ Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
Quote: Thats why I said "If it held a PH ops licence" Of course not needing any hackney ops licence for the car isnt the same as not requiring one for the office, which might need planning permission.... If it held a PH ops licence...it would not be Hackney.. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
MR T wrote: Quote: Thats why I said "If it held a PH ops licence" Of course not needing any hackney ops licence for the car isnt the same as not requiring one for the office, which might need planning permission.... If it held a PH ops licence...it would not be Hackney.. mixed fleet |
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| Author: | MR T [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
wannabeeahack wrote: MR T wrote: Quote: Thats why I said "If it held a PH ops licence" Of course not needing any hackney ops licence for the car isnt the same as not requiring one for the office, which might need planning permission.... If it held a PH ops licence...it would not be Hackney.. mixed fleet
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| Author: | edders23 [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
Midlife martyr wrote: This is quite a hot topic at the moment one way of cutting down is the intended use policy which Rossendale and others are adopting at the moment. I have another suggestion which if legal could stop the problem overnight which is instead of trying to control the drivers why don't the the licensing authorities impose the condition on every one that holds an operators licence in there area that they can only rent radios/data heads to drivers who hold badges in the same area. I would expect the howls of protest from some operators to be ear splitting but to me it would seem to be a perfectly reasonable condition and most importantly clearly in the publics interest. I doubt that would be legal as it would constitute a restriction of trade surely ? |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
MR T wrote: If it held a PH ops licence...it would not be Hackney.. Not many bases are 100% hack or 100% PH, hence "mixed" and hence a PH ops licence will ne held somewhere |
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| Author: | MR T [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
we have 100% bases that are hackney......they need no licence.... |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
MR T wrote: we have 100% bases that are hackney......they need no licence.... any with outside hacks working tho? |
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| Author: | MR T [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
wannabeeahack wrote: MR T wrote: we have 100% bases that are hackney......they need no licence.... any with outside hacks working tho? No.. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
wannabeeahack wrote: MR T wrote: we have 100% bases that are hackney......they need no licence.... any with outside hacks working tho? I believe that any Hackney can pass work to any other Hackney, anywhere. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney Interlopers |
grandad wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: MR T wrote: we have 100% bases that are hackney......they need no licence.... any with outside hacks working tho? I believe that any Hackney can pass work to any other Hackney, anywhere. Thats true but when they ONLY work out of area the situation gets nasty |
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