Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:54 pm

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:08 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:53 am
Posts: 24
A: minicab is parked on the street. 2 people walk over and says "take me to ABC", you let them in. you put the meter on (or not) and drive away. ---> that's definitely plying for hire

B:minicab is parked on the street. 2 people walk over and says "take me to ABC", you say that "you're not a hackney carriage and you can only accept jobs with prior booking from dispatch". They see the number on your car door, ring it (either prompted by you, or of their own free will) and ask for a taxi. You are the nearest free car, and would get the job ----> is that plying for hire?

IF B: such that if there were 2 minicabs parked side by side, after they ask you , then they ring for taxi (as legally they're allowed to ring anyone at any time), is it only "plying for hire" if you take the job, but not the car after you?

C: there is an uber car parked on the street. people who know how uber works know there is no dispatch. Uber app shows all available cars. They book, as they're right next to your car. -----> would that only be plying for hire if any words were exchanged or would it not be if no words were exchanged?


(actually, I think other minicab companies can also book by app now, but wouldn't be as widely know as Uber for that)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 54003
Location: 1066 Country
jonsnow wrote:
A: minicab is parked on the street. 2 people walk over and says "take me to ABC", you let them in. you put the meter on (or not) and drive away. ---> that's definitely plying for hire

Or unlicensed hiring.

jonsnow wrote:
B:minicab is parked on the street. 2 people walk over and says "take me to ABC", you say that "you're not a hackney carriage and you can only accept jobs with prior booking from dispatch". They see the number on your car door, ring it (either prompted by you, or of their own free will) and ask for a taxi. You are the nearest free car, and would get the job ----> is that plying for hire?

I think it's what drew them to you in the first place. But I think a council would struggle to get a conviction in the above scenario.

jonsnow wrote:
IF B: such that if there were 2 minicabs parked side by side, after they ask you , then they ring for taxi (as legally they're allowed to ring anyone at any time), is it only "plying for hire" if you take the job, but not the car after you?

I think both would be ok.

jonsnow wrote:
C: there is an uber car parked on the street. people who know how uber works know there is no dispatch. Uber app shows all available cars. They book, as they're right next to your car. -----> would that only be plying for hire if any words were exchanged or would it not be if no words were exchanged?

(actually, I think other minicab companies can also book by app now, but wouldn't be as widely know as Uber for that)

No. What drew the punters to the car was the app, not the car.

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:50 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24127
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
jonsnow wrote:
A: minicab is parked on the street. 2 people walk over and says "take me to ABC", you let them in. you put the meter on (or not) and drive away. ---> that's definitely plying for hire





"meter".... so is it a hack or a private hire vehicle?

_________________
Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:38 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:53 am
Posts: 24
wannabeeahack wrote:
jonsnow wrote:
A: minicab is parked on the street. 2 people walk over and says "take me to ABC", you let them in. you put the meter on (or not) and drive away. ---> that's definitely plying for hire





"meter".... so is it a hack or a private hire vehicle?

private hire does not have to abide by the council set hack tarriffs or use a meter, but they can, and around here, they do. I'm not sure how common that is.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:02 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24127
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
jonsnow wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
jonsnow wrote:
A: minicab is parked on the street. 2 people walk over and says "take me to ABC", you let them in. you put the meter on (or not) and drive away. ---> that's definitely plying for hire





"meter".... so is it a hack or a private hire vehicle?

private hire does not have to abide by the council set hack tarriffs or use a meter, but they can, and around here, they do. I'm not sure how common that is.


so a PH pays £250 for a meter they then dont have to use?....der...


BUT, my question was, the vehicle plying for hire.....HC or PH?

_________________
Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 54003
Location: 1066 Country
wannabeeahack wrote:
so a PH pays £250 for a meter they then dont have to use?....der...

They only use them because the alternatives are akin to dark ages procedures..

Mileometer. ](*,) Office quotes. ](*,) Guesswork. ](*,)

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:03 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 54003
Location: 1066 Country
wannabeeahack wrote:
BUT, my question was, the vehicle plying for hire.....HC or PH?

Does it matter? :-k

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24127
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
BUT, my question was, the vehicle plying for hire.....HC or PH?

Does it matter? :-k


It clearly does to the OP who (I feel) thinks a HC may sit anywhere and take a flag....we know different dont we....dont we?

_________________
Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 42 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group