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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low pay |
One to follow IMO, as it could have huge ramifications for the bank accounts of some taxi/PH spivs. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37334936 |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
Self Employed drivers ... end of |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
wannabeeahack wrote: Self Employed drivers ... end of Maybe some, but not all. I think if a driver is allowed to work with other firms, or advertise himself, then I think a case could be made that the driver isn't employed. However if a driver is forbidden from taking work elsewhere, and the car is rented from the firm, then I struggle to see how this can be anything other than employed. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
Sussex wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: Self Employed drivers ... end of Maybe some, but not all. However if a driver is forbidden from taking work elsewhere, and the car is rented from the firm, then I struggle to see how this can be anything other than employed. well it works in the taxi trade |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
They'll pay their way out of it. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
Someone is probably self-employed and shouldn’t be paid through PAYE if most of the following are true: they’re in business for themselves, are responsible for the success or failure of their business and can make a loss or a profit Clearly neither Hermes nor taxi renters comply with this they can decide what work they do and when, where or how to do it Maybe they can hire someone else to do the work NOPE they’re responsible for fixing any unsatisfactory work in their own time Maybe their employer agrees a fixed price for their work - it doesn’t depend on how long the job takes to finish Maybe they use their own money to buy business assets, cover running costs, and provide tools and equipment for their work Not the vehicles....maybe a satnav they can work for more than one client Define client |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
My take is that if someone tells you a price for a job you are no longer self employed. If a plumber comes to quote for a job and you tell him that you are only paying him a certain amount the plumber is no longer self employed, you have employed him. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
Nidge2 wrote: My take is that if someone tells you a price for a job you are no longer self employed. If a plumber comes to quote for a job and you tell him that you are only paying him a certain amount the plumber is no longer self employed, you have employed him. I am not sure I agree with that. You are basically saying that as a customer you can't negotiate a price with the plumber without employing him. Or the builder or the garage when having your car fixed etc. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
In old Atherstone town, in the mists of time, an owner driver on a base was hacked off seeing cars having jockeys (2nd drivers) in cars working on a split bag and rang HMRC... wind forward and now all non-owners who drive are PAYE.......... this could shake up a few bases i know |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
grandad wrote: Nidge2 wrote: My take is that if someone tells you a price for a job you are no longer self employed. If a plumber comes to quote for a job and you tell him that you are only paying him a certain amount the plumber is no longer self employed, you have employed him. I am not sure I agree with that. You are basically saying that as a customer you can't negotiate a price with the plumber without employing him. Or the builder or the garage when having your car fixed etc. It's on a Government website which gives advice on self employed, the above I posted came from that very same website. Can't remember what site it was because I read it years ago. When someone tells you what they're paying you become employed by them. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
Nidge2 wrote: When someone tells you what they're paying you become employed by them. I suppose that I would have to register myself as an employer with HMRC and pay holiday pay to this plumber because I told him I would give him a tenner to change my ballcock. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
grandad wrote: Nidge2 wrote: When someone tells you what they're paying you become employed by them. I suppose that I would have to register myself as an employer with HMRC and pay holiday pay to this plumber because I told him I would give him a tenner to change my ballcock. Did he tell you where to shove your ballcock? |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
Nidge2 wrote: grandad wrote: Nidge2 wrote: My take is that if someone tells you a price for a job you are no longer self employed. If a plumber comes to quote for a job and you tell him that you are only paying him a certain amount the plumber is no longer self employed, you have employed him. I am not sure I agree with that. You are basically saying that as a customer you can't negotiate a price with the plumber without employing him. Or the builder or the garage when having your car fixed etc. It's on a Government website which gives advice on self employed, the above I posted came from that very same website. Can't remember what site it was because I read it years ago. When someone tells you what they're paying you become employed by them. https://www.gov.uk/employment-status/se ... contractor |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Hermes may face HMRC investigation over low |
Wasn't that one. |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Courier firm Herpes may face HMRC investigation over low |
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