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Author:  wannabeeahack [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Meter useage...
In a hack fitted with a meter when is it to be used when carrying fare paying passengers?

journeys wholly within the LA?

Journeys only partly within the LA?

Journeys at no time within the LA?
Author:  captain cab [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
wannabeeahack wrote:
In a hack fitted with a meter when is it to be used when carrying fare paying passengers?

journeys wholly within the LA?

Journeys only partly within the LA?

Journeys at no time within the LA?



you haven't mastered the numbered list after all these years?
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
Easy.

1 Journeys wholly within the LA? The meter must be used.

2 Journeys only partly within the LA? The meter may be used or a fare may negotiated which negates the need for the meter to be used. No negotiation means meter is used.

3 Journeys at no time within the LA? This by definition must be a Private Hiring so if the person (often a PH Operator) has agreed a fare with the passenger, that is what it is. If the agreement is "Using the meter in the Hackney Carriage set to the Tariff for Lichfield (for example)" then that requires the meter to be used even if the whole journey is in Cornwall.

NB.
I have CC. :wink:
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
Chris the Fish wrote:
Easy.

1 Journeys wholly within the LA? The meter must be used.

2 Journeys only partly within the LA? The meter may be used or a fare may negotiated which negates the need for the meter to be used. No negotiation means meter is used.

3 Journeys at no time within the LA? This by definition must be a Private Hiring so if the person (often a PH Operator) has agreed a fare with the passenger, that is what it is. If the agreement is "Using the meter in the Hackney Carriage set to the Tariff for Lichfield (for example)" then that requires the meter to be used even if the whole journey is in Cornwall.

NB.
I have CC. :wink:


"Meter must be used for all journeys"
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
wannabeeahack wrote:
"Meter must be used for all journeys"

Is the wrong answer.
Author:  captain cab [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
byelaws only applicable within the district
Author:  grandad [ Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
Chris the Fish wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
"Meter must be used for all journeys"

Is the wrong answer.

Is the answer from his LA.
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
grandad wrote:
Chris the Fish wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
"Meter must be used for all journeys"

Is the wrong answer.

Is the answer from his LA.



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Author:  Chris the Fish [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
Simple.

The City Council in Lichfield have produced a Bye Law (Tariff is part of the Bye Laws) which is unenforceable as it flies in the face of National Legislation.

Wannabe, tell them to sort it out. :wink:
Author:  heathcote [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
Section 68 TPCA 1847 (make Bye Laws)

If they fix rates or fares under Section 68 how is it unenforceable?

That rate or fare that has been fixed then becomes part of the Bye Laws until it is changed.
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
Chris the Fish wrote:
Simple.

The City Council in Lichfield have produced a Bye Law (Tariff is part of the Bye Laws) which is unenforceable as it flies in the face of National Legislation.

Wannabe, tell them to sort it out. :wink:



Ive done Heanor to LHR, never saw our LO at either :badgrin:
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
heathcote wrote:
Section 68 TPCA 1847 (make Bye Laws)

If they fix rates or fares under Section 68 how is it unenforceable?

That rate or fare that has been fixed then becomes part of the Bye Laws until it is changed.


Your first bit "Section 68 TPCA 1847 (make Bye Laws)" is correct.

The next bit is also correct "If they fix rates or fares under Section 68 how is it unenforceable?" It is enforceable WITHIN THE LA AREA.

The last bit is also correct but again it only holds water WITHIN THE LA AREA "That rate or fare that has been fixed then becomes part of the Bye Laws until it is changed."
Author:  skippy41 [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
Now if your a hack and you receive a phone call from inside your district, you could then be classed as a PH,
In Scotland because many hacks are operators, in their own right,, rank work within district meter on, phone calls direct to the driver PH, drivers discretion
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
skippy41 wrote:
Now if your a hack and you receive a phone call from inside your district, you could then be classed as a PH,
In Scotland because many hacks are operators, in their own right,, rank work within district meter on, phone calls direct to the driver PH, drivers discretion


you cant take a call, your Samsung wont connect...lol
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meter useage...
skippy41 wrote:
you could then be classed as a PH,

You could also be classed as a Jumbo Jet, but like the above you are not.
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