Taxi Driver Online

Hi folks

I was wondering is this possible? or a way round it so i can get my own insurence as they require the phc plates to be in my own name...
I am already driving a phc which is plated but my own plates have come throught after a 2 month wait and the council want the car details from me.. ive been told ill have to surender the plates that are on the car in order to re plate with my own ones..

Also insurence prices i have been quoted around £1120 TPFT and £1600 for fully com is this a good deal??

You can transfer your PH plate to anyone you like.

Are you saying the insurance company want your name on the vehicle document?

Or are you saying you want to be insured, not the vehicle? If so then I doubt anyone would be interested until they know what you are driving.

That said, PH vehicle licenses are issued on demand, so why you have had to wait I'm not really sure.

As for your insurance costs, it all depends on the area you work. I heard up north is a bit iffy.

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IDFIMH

Ive just phoned my local council they are saying the plates on the car cant be transfered into someone elses name and if i want to buy the car the original plate holder has to surender the plates so i can re plate the car with my own.. my insurence are saying that for me to get taxi insurence i have to have the phc plates in my name aswell as the vehicle document in my name

Private plates (phc) cant be transfered but public (black cab)ones can thats what i was told

Tell your licensing officer he needs to get a new job.

Then quote him section 49 of the 1976 Miscellaneous Provisions Act.

Or better still send him a copy. www.taxi-driver.co.uk/LG(MP)A1976.pdf

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IDFIMH

Maybe by 'surrendering' plates and all that the LO just meant physically handing the old plates in, which would be necessary to effect a transfer of the license?

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Taxi Driver Online
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could it be different rules for different councils? im in glasgow i did find it abit odd not being able to transfer a phc plate it would save me alot of hassle and time

I'm not sure about Scotland, TBH I didn't know the place existed untill recently.

But I would be surprised if it was any different. On here someone is the Civic Government Act which is near to our 1976 Act. So give the search function a go.

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IDFIMH

The Civic Government Act doesn't provide for the transfer of taxi and PH licenses. That's the root of all the problems with plate hiring etc. The reason transfers weren't allowed was to stop the trade benefitting from the artificial value of taxi license where numbers are limited. I'm not sure why the Act disallowed PH plate transfers because of course they can't be limited in number.

But since anyone can get a PH plate it really just means a bit more paper shuffling and the issue of a new license to lead to what amounts to a transfer.

England and Wales.


Transfer of hackney carriages and private hire vehicles.

If the proprietor of a hackney carriage or a private hire vehicle in respect of which a vehicle licence has been granted by a district council for an area to which Part II of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 applies transfers his interest in the hackney carriage or private hire vehicle to a person other than the proprietor whose name is specified in the licence, he must within 14 days after such transfer give notice in writing to the district council specifying the name and address of the person to whom the hackney carriage or private hire vehicle has been transferred.

If a proprietor without reasonable excuse fails to give such notice to a district council he is guilty of an offence.

1 For the meaning of 'proprietor' see para 1068 note 3 ante.2 For the meaning of 'hackney carriage' see para 1055 ante.3 For the meaning of 'private hire vehicle' see para 1063 note 5 ante.4 For the meaning of 'vehicle licence' see para 1068 note 6 ante.5 Ie the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 Pt II (ss 45–80) (as amended). As to the application of Pt II (as amended) see para 1054 ante. As to the meaning of 'district council' see para 1054 note 5 ante.6 Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 s 49(1).7 Ibid s 49(2).

A person guilty of such an offence is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale: s 76 (amended by virtue of the Criminal Justice Act 1982 ss 38, 46). As to the standard scale see para 29 note 3 ante. Where such an offence is due to the act or default of another person, then, whether proceedings are taken against the first-mentioned person or not, that other person may be charged with and convicted of the offence, and is liable on conviction to the same punishment as might have been imposed on the first-mentioned person if he had been convicted of the offence: Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 s 72(1).

Where an offence which has been committed by a body corporate is proved to have been committed with the consent or connivance of, or to be attributable to any neglect on the part of, any director, manager, secretary or other similar officer of the body corporate, or any person who was purporting to act in any such capacity, he as well as the body corporate is guilty of an offence and is liable to be proceeded against and punished accordingly: ss 44(3), 72(2). As to the standard scale see para 29 note 3 ante.

a few years ago we had a drivers accused of sexually assulting many women.
when he was charge he sold his plate. or tranferrred it to his wife.
he was then found not guilty in crown court.
and then his plate was tranferred back to him.

there is another driver who has been charged with assult.
not yet been to court but he has tranferred his plate.
i wonder why?