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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 11:48 am 
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NORTH WARWICKSHIRE BOROUGH COUNCIL
Intended Use Policy for the Licensing of Hackney Carriages
Town Police Clauses Act 1847
Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976

1. Introduction

1.1 This policy has been written in response to the High Court Judgement and
Declaration made in the case of Newcastle City Council v Berwick – Upon –
Tweed Borough Council 2008 concerning the use of hackney carriages licensed
by one authority being used wholly, or for a substantial period of time as private
hire vehicles in the areas of other local authorities.

1.2 The major purpose behind the 1847 Act and the 1976 Act is the safety of the
public. Thus the scheme of legislation is directed towards having safe vehicles, fit
and proper drivers and appropriate conditions of hire. It was decided by
Parliament that licensing should be dealt with locally rather than nationally.

1.3 If hackney carriages are working remote from their licensing authority a number
of potentially undesirable consequences follow. The licensing authority will not
easily keep their licensed fleet under observation. It will be carrying out its
enforcement powers from a distance. The licensing authority where the hackney
carriage has chosen to operate will have no enforcement powers over the vehicle
although it is being used in their area.

1.4 It is therefore normally desirable for an authority issuing licences to hackney
carriages to be able to restrict the issuing of those licences to proprietors and
drivers which are intending to ply for hire in that authority’s area. Similarly it is
desirable to be able to refuse to issue a licence to proprietors and drivers who do
not intend to ply for hire, to a material extent, in the area of the licence grantor.

2. Applications for the New Grant and Renewal of a Hackney Carriage Licence

2.1 Applicants for new licences and renewals of licences will be expected to
demonstrate a bona fide intention to ply for hire within the administrative area of
North Warwickshire Borough Council (The Council) under the terms of the
licence for which application is being made.

2.2 There will be a presumption that applicants who do not intend to a material extent
to ply for hire within the administrative area of The Council will not be
granted a hackney carriage licence authorising them to do so. Each application
will be decided on its merits.

2.3 Even where the applicant intends to ply for hire to a material extent in the Council
area, if the intention is to trade in another authority’s area also for a substantial
amount of time (and it appears that the purpose of the legislation and public
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safety will be frustrated) then, subject to the merits of the particular application,
there will be a presumption that the application will be refused.

3. Transfer of Ownership – When a Licensed Vehicle is Transferred from One
Person to Another

3.1 Section 49 of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976
requires that the proprietor of the licensed vehicle who transfers his interest to
another must, within 14 days of the transfer, give written notice to the Council of
the name and address of the transferee of the hackney carriage. The Council
has no power to refuse to register the new proprietor : see R v Weymouth
Borough Council, ex p Teletax (Weymouth) Ltd [1947] KB583.

3.2 Provided requisite notice has been given in accordance with Section 49 of the
Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976, the Council will register
the transferee of a licensed hackney carriage as the new proprietor.

3.3 The transferee of a licensed hackney carriage will be asked to inform the Council
whether he has a bona fide intention to use the vehicle to ply for hire within the
administrative area of the Council. Transferees should note the obligation under
Section 73 of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 to give
to an authorised officer information which may reasonably be required by him for
the purpose of carrying out his functions under the legislation. Where there is a
failure to provide the requested information, the Council will give serious
consideration to exercising its powers of suspension of the licence under Section
60 of the 1976 Act until such information is forthcoming, in addition to its powers
under Section 73.

3.4 Transferees of existing licences will be expected to have a bona fide intention to
ply for hire within the administrative area of the Council under the terms of the
licence in respect of the vehicle being transferred.

3.5 Where the transferee of a licensed hackney carriage is found to have no intention
to ply for hire to a material extent within the administrative area of the Council
and/or intends to trade in another authority’s area also for a substantial amount
of time (and it appears that the purpose of the legislation and public safety will be
frustrated) then, subject to the merits of the particular case, consideration will be
given (either at renewal or earlier) to the suspension or revocation of the licence
under Section 60 of the 1976 Act. Where the transferee proposes to operate
remotely from the administrative area of the Council there will be a presumption
that his licence will be revoked. Each case will be decided on its merits.

4. Change of Vehicle – When a Proprietor Replaces a Licensed Vehicle
4.1 Applicants seeking the grant of hackney carriage licence for a vehicle intended to
replace another licensed vehicle will be asked to inform the Council of their
intended use of the vehicle. There will be a presumption that applicants who no
longer intend to ply for hire to a material extent within the administrative area of
the Council will not have the new hackney carriage licence granted. Even where
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the applicant intends to ply for hire to a material extent in the area of the Council,
if the intention is to trade in another authority’s area also for a substantial amount
of time (and it appears that the purpose of the legislation and public safety will be
frustrated) then, subject to the merits of the particular case, there will be a
presumption that the application will be refused.
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5. Revocation of Licence
5.1 Where a licence has been granted under the terms that the applicant intends to
ply for hire to a material extent within the administrative area of the Council but is
subsequently found not to be plying for hire to a material extent in the Council
area and/or to be trading in another authority’s area for a substantial amount of
time (and it appears that the purpose of the legislation and public safety will be
frustrated) there will be a presumption that the licence will be revoked.

6. Exceptional Circumstances

6.1 Each application will be decided on its merits. However, the presumptions that
intended use is to ply for hire to a material extent within the administrative area
of the Council will be rebuttable in exceptional circumstances. Whilst it is neither
possible nor prudent to draw up a list of what might amount to exceptional
circumstances, an applicant who claims that exceptional circumstances exist will
be expected to be able to satisfy the Council that it would not frustrate the
purposes of the legislation or compromise public safety if the licence were
granted, renewed or if were not suspended or revoked as the case may be.

7. Reasons for Policy

7.1 The Council wishes to ensure that applications for the grant of hackney carriage
licences are determined in accordance with the guidance given by the High Court
In its judgement, and the Declaration made in the case of Newcastle City Council
v Berwick upon Tweed Council [2008].

7.2 The Council is required to register the name of the new proprietor of a vehicle. It
seems to the Council also to open up an obvious route to circumvent the decision
of the High Court, unless precautionary steps are taken. Section 3 is intended to
put the Council in a position to respond responsibly to the transfer of a North
Warwickshire hackney carriage into the name of someone who operates outside
the Council zone or remotely from it.

7.3 Unless there has been a change in the proprietor’s intentions with regard to
plying for hire within a zone of the administrative area of the Council, there
should be no reason why he should not be granted a licence for a replacement
vehicle. On the other hand, an applicant who obtained his first licence on the
expressed intention of plying for hire to a material extent within a zone of the
administrative area of the Council, and who on application to replace that vehicle
with another discloses that he no longer so intends, effectively engages the
presumption against grant that is mentioned earlier.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 5:10 pm 
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Our lot object to Hacks working for private hire offices they want more Taxi,s on the ranks so the are trying to stop them working private hire is this possible to achieve this in Legislation.

This is working in operating area only not out of Town


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Blackcab Bob wrote:
Our lot object to Hacks working for private hire offices they want more Taxi,s on the ranks so the are trying to stop them working private hire is this possible to achieve this in Legislation.

This is working in operating area only not out of Town


Theres no such thing as PH offices, only offices... the PH should firstly object at thier offices allowing out of town cars working thier area

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 8:20 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Blackcab Bob wrote:
Our lot object to Hacks working for private hire offices they want more Taxi,s on the ranks so the are trying to stop them working private hire is this possible to achieve this in Legislation.

This is working in operating area only not out of Town


Theres no such thing as PH offices, only offices... the PH should firstly object at thier offices allowing out of town cars working thier area



Oh but there is such a thing as a private hire office,you must have planning permission for a private hire office to be able to be granted a private hire operators license.


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 8:21 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
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Defo a start in respect of hackneys, we now need the likes of TfL to repeat in respect of PH.

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heathcote wrote:
Oh but there is such a thing as a private hire office,you must have planning permission for a private hire office to be able to be granted a private hire operators license.




You need planning permission for a hack base (retail/business/classA?) ..... you cant change from a takewaway to a taxi office without it.....Theres probably not a 100% PH base for 30 miles from here, apart from UBER, this useage isnt down to the LA though.

We have PH ops licence restricted to 2 vehicles at a private property but the same property could have 20 hacks

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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 11:12 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:



You need planning permission for a hack base (retail/business/classA?) ..... you cant change from a takewaway to a taxi office without it.....Theres probably not a 100% PH base for 30 miles from here, apart from UBER, this useage isnt down to the LA though.

We have PH ops licence restricted to 2 vehicles at a private property but the same property could have 20 hacks

If it is a private house then you need planning permission to run more than 2 vehicles from the property. Unless of course you have got away with it for over 10 years, then you have assumed permission.

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heathcote wrote:
Oh but there is such a thing as a private hire office,you must have planning permission for a private hire office to be able to be granted a private hire operators license.

Not everywhere.

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A building would/could need useage permission but only a PH operator here needs a PH OPs licence, so if i ran 70 PH from a building without owning 1 id not need the PH ops licence

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