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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:25 am 
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If a driver takes a fare out of line at the rank it sounds like they'll have some sort of trial to work out whether he's guilty or not. :roll: :lol: You'd almost need to be a lawyer to work this out anyway.

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Where the physical layout of a stance permits, all drivers of taxi or private hires
arriving at an appointed taxi or private hire stance will take their stations on such
stance from front to rear in order of their arrival, and hires will be accepted in that
order, except, when an intending hirer wishes to engage a specific taxi or private hire
or its driver, in which case the engagement may be accepted in the order indicated
by the intending hirer, but the onus of proving the hirer’s wishes will be on the driver
of the taxi or private hire apparently chosen out of order.


Think the lawyers have been at this one as well:

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The driver of a taxi or private hire will not at any time convey more passengers than
can be properly seated in that part of the taxi or private hire set aside for passengers
but, without prejudice to this generality, up to eight passengers may be conveyed
where the taxi or private hire has been approved by the Council for the conveyance
of up to eight passengers.


Think that last bit is saying if it's licensed as an eight-seater then you can take up to eight passengers. :-s

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Any property found in such taxi or private hire by the driver will forthwith be returned
by the driver of the taxi or private hire to the owner of the property, if known, and if
not known, such property will be handed in by the taxi or private hire driver to any
police station within 24 hours along with:
a) a note of the taxi or private hire driver’s name and address;
b) the name of the holder of the licence for such taxi or private hire;
c) the number of the taxi or private hire; and
d) the names and addresses of all hirers of the taxi or private hire during that
day so far as known to the driver which may assist in determining
ownership of the property


Somehow I doubt if the highlighted condition always complied with. :-#

Doubt if the following is complied with to the letter either. And I wonder how a "disabled person" is defined? :-k

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Where a taxi or private hire has been hired by or for a disabled person, welcome that
person into the taxi or private hire, ask what help they need and how they can help;
help disabled passengers when they ask for it to get in and out of the taxi or private
hire, help and carry wheelchairs, luggage or other bags if the customer cannot do it;
carry wheelchairs, mobility aids and assistance dogs without extra charge.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:38 am 
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Are Private Hires used the same as Taxis up there, seems like PH can use the Taxi rank or If it's a Taxi and PH pick up area then at least they have to pick up their clients only if they happen to be first in the queue.

Smacks of a not so smart arse pretending to be a smart arse when this krap spewed off their jobsworths Keyboard.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:51 am 
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bloodnock wrote:
Are Private Hires used the same as Taxis up there, seems like PH can use the Taxi rank or If it's a Taxi and PH pick up area then at least they have to pick up their clients only if they happen to be first in the queue.

Smacks of a not so smart arse pretending to be a smart arse when this krap spewed off their jobsworths Keyboard.


The rank at Perth Railway Station is described as a 'private rank', so it may be PH-only or a mixture of taxis and PH.

But can't really see what the rank rule is trying to achieve - basically seems to be saying that if a passenger goes to any car then that car can accept the hire, so I'm not sure what this burden of proof thing is about.

Only thing I can think of is that the driver may be accused of touting in some way, so has to prove that the passenger came to the car without prompting.

Another funny thing is that although it all reads a bit formal and lawyerly, the text consistently uses the term private hire rather than 'private hire vehicle' or 'private hire car'.

But 'private hire' without either the word car or vehicle sounds very informal.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:27 am 
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StuartW wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Are Private Hires used the same as Taxis up there, seems like PH can use the Taxi rank or If it's a Taxi and PH pick up area then at least they have to pick up their clients only if they happen to be first in the queue.

Smacks of a not so smart arse pretending to be a smart arse when this krap spewed off their jobsworths Keyboard.


The rank at Perth Railway Station is described as a 'private rank', so it may be PH-only or a mixture of taxis and PH.

But can't really see what the rank rule is trying to achieve - basically seems to be saying that if a passenger goes to any car then that car can accept the hire, so I'm not sure what this burden of proof thing is about.

Only thing I can think of is that the driver may be accused of touting in some way, so has to prove that the passenger came to the car without prompting.

Another funny thing is that although it all reads a bit formal and lawyerly, the text consistently uses the term private hire rather than 'private hire vehicle' or 'private hire car'.

But 'private hire' without either the word car or vehicle sounds very informal.


Its customer prerogative, they may take any cab they want from any rank, no questions asked, as for PH being at the station rank, they are breaking the law if they accept a hire, as they are in full public view, and can only be used if pre booked

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:32 pm 
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skippy41 wrote:
as for PH being at the station rank, they are breaking the law if they accept a hire, as they are in full public view, and can only be used if pre booked


its Scotland, the law is different

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:49 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
as for PH being at the station rank, they are breaking the law if they accept a hire, as they are in full public view, and can only be used if pre booked


its Scotland, the law is different


That is Scottish law, and they must return to base

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:41 pm 
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StuartW wrote:
d) the names and addresses of all hirers of the taxi or private hire during that
day so far as known to the driver which may assist in determining
ownership of the property

Chances of that happening is a big fat NIL

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:46 pm 
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StuartW wrote:
Where the physical layout of a stance permits, all drivers of taxi or private hires
arriving at an appointed taxi or private hire stance will take their stations on such
stance from front to rear in order of their arrival, and hires will be accepted in that
order, except, when an intending hirer wishes to engage a specific taxi or private hire
or its driver, in which case the engagement may be accepted in the order indicated
by the intending hirer, but the onus of proving the hirer’s wishes will be on the driver
of the taxi or private hire apparently chosen out of order.

Confused as to how they are going to enforce a PH order of dispatch. :-k

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