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 Post subject: refuse a rank job
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:01 pm 
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can a hack in P1 on a rank refuse a walk in fare simply as its a short job?

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 Post subject: Re: refuse a rank job
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:25 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
can a hack in P1 on a rank refuse a walk in fare simply as its a short job?


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 Post subject: Re: refuse a rank job
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But would it have to be a local licensing requirement?

in the rules

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 Post subject: Re: refuse a rank job
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wannabeeahack wrote:
But would it have to be a local licensing requirement?

in the rules


Law of the land.

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 Post subject: Re: refuse a rank job
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:53 pm 
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I just wish there was more enforcement to stop it happening here in Chester. Not a huge problem but certain drivers from certain backgrounds think it is acceptable. When they’re reported for it they play the race card, couldn’t understand them or they were abusive towards them. I think we need more ‘test’ cases, but then they’d cry entrapment.


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 Post subject: Re: refuse a rank job
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:21 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
But would it have to be a local licensing requirement?

in the rules


These are our conditions of licence here, which I suspect are pretty standard in Scotland, and elsewhere.

Fife Council taxi/private hire licence conditions wrote:
7. Subject to condition 8 below the driver of the taxi/private hire car shall not refuse to drive a passenger to any place within the licensing area.

8. The driver of a taxi/private hire car need not convey any hirer or passenger who is drunk or otherwise not in a fit and proper state to be carried, or whose condition or clothing is offensive or likely to cause damage to the interior of the vehicle, or who refuses to cease smoking in the vehicle when requested to do so by the driver, or is accompanied by any animal which is likely to damage or soil the interior of the vehicle, or for any other reasonable excuse.


Two points. One, I thought this just reflected what was in the legislation, but can't see it offhand.

Two, can't be bothered looking back, but I'm sure that previously it referred to taxis only, and not PH, so may have been changed.

Not a lot of difference here between taxis and PH, which may be the reason for the change.


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 Post subject: Re: refuse a rank job
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:44 pm 
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x-ray wrote:
I just wish there was more enforcement to stop it happening here in Chester. Not a huge problem but certain drivers from certain backgrounds think it is acceptable. When they’re reported for it they play the race card, couldn’t understand them or they were abusive towards them. I think we need more ‘test’ cases, but then they’d cry entrapment.


Yes, quite a grey area. The wording here is any other 'reasonable excuse', which could potentially cover anything.

Which was why I was questioning a few days ago whether a fare to dodgy area (in Hull) could be refused on those grounds - if so, certainly the kind of thing that could be open to abuse, most obviously to avoid undesirables or short fares.

Recall when there were roadworks and diversions near our station asking our LO if it would be reasonable to knock back a fare of a few hundred yards (ie on the flagfall) when the trip *back* to the rank would be nearly five miles (and the driver could easily have waited a couple of hours for the fare).

Think he actually said it would be reasonable to knock it back, which surprised me, but unfortunately the situation never actually arose, so didn't have to test the theory.

But which begs the question, how far would the detour need be to justify knocking such a fare back. Of course, it's hardly unusual for that kind of thing to happen, but not normally so that the journey back is ten times the length of the journey there.


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wannabeeahack wrote:
can a hack in P1 on a rank refuse a walk in fare simply as its a short job?

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 Post subject: Re: refuse a rank job
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:47 pm 
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x-ray wrote:
I just wish there was more enforcement to stop it happening here in Chester. Not a huge problem but certain drivers from certain backgrounds think it is acceptable. When they’re reported for it they play the race card, couldn’t understand them or they were abusive towards them. I think we need more ‘test’ cases, but then they’d cry entrapment.



Typical Welsh....


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