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 Post subject: Re: Seatbelts
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:54 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
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Asking for a driver. I got no clue either and u guys are quite savvy.

Private hire driver was caught on the way to a job by a camera showing no seatbelt being worn.

He understands that belts dont need to be worn when carrying paying passengers.

His passenger was not in the car yet.

Is he screwed?




screwed yes

belts in PH must be worn at all time

PH don't have to wear belts whilst they have a passenger on board.

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 Post subject: Re: Seatbelts
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:24 pm 
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So how many of you wear seatbelts?

I employ my drivers and treat not wearing a seatbelt as misconduct.

We do(sorry did) lots of corporate work and safety is a big issue.

I have always been clear that a driver not wearing his seatbelt tells his passenger that 'I don't care about my safety, so don't think I care about yours either'.

I accept in other environments the driver safety plays a bigger factor but in ours it is irrelevant.

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 Post subject: Re: Seatbelts
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:58 pm 
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x-ray wrote:
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although I was outside of my licensing area, I was covered either way

Well that's one of the things I think a prosecution lawyer could dispute if the case arose?

I mean, can you be 'seeking hire' if you're out-of-area? Or maybe if you're with a circuit you could argue that you're seeking hire even if you're out-of-area?



I was exempt because I was answering a call for hire ( it was as my own return from a passenger I’d dropped off earlier in the day ) not because I was seeking hire, which would have been illegal outside of my licensed area.

I wonder if the 'seeking hire' exemption means that if you're working you're covered, even when out-of-area?

I mean, if they wanted to only cover in-area cabs then they'd have used the words 'plying for hire', surely?

What's the significance of using the phrase 'seeking hire' rather than 'plying for hire'?

That's what I was getting at regarding my supermarket visits while working and in Dundee (out of area), for example.

And if it's as you say, it's all a bit daft. You could take someone to Wales or Manchester without a belt, then have to put it on when you drop then, but then could remove it if you got a call from back home, but you're still out-of-area? :-s


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 Post subject: Re: Seatbelts
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:58 pm 
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Tom Thumb wrote:
So how many of you wear seatbelts?

The clear answer is too many of us, and as I've mentioned before on this thread that includes me.

I think if you employ drivers then it's entirely reasonable for you to insist that drivers wear them. Drivers then have a choice to wear them, or leave.

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 Post subject: Re: Seatbelts
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:08 am 
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I dont understand why anyone would NOT wear them

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 Post subject: Re: Seatbelts
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:40 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
I dont understand why anyone would NOT wear them

But you could also say why don't we wear safety helmets?

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 Post subject: Re: Seatbelts
PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:44 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
I dont understand why anyone would NOT wear them

But you could also say why don't we wear safety helmets?


cos my cars got a steel roof

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 Post subject: Re: Seatbelts
PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:38 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Tom Thumb wrote:
So how many of you wear seatbelts?

The clear answer is too many of us, and as I've mentioned before on this thread that includes me.

I think if you employ drivers then it's entirely reasonable for you to insist that drivers wear them. Drivers then have a choice to wear them, or leave.

Just had another look at this post and I should have said too many of us don't wear seat belts. #-o

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