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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:31 pm 
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Haven't really been paying attention to this, but thankfully PHTM have done an article on this.

https://content.yudu.com/web/43sy4/0A43 ... gin=reader

One has to wonder how many this will cull from the trade. :-k

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:27 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Haven't really been paying attention to this, but thankfully PHTM have done an article on this.

https://content.yudu.com/web/43sy4/0A43 ... gin=reader

One has to wonder how many this will cull from the trade. :-k


Should have been implemented immediately and include proprietors.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:19 pm 
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HMRC have just published a Policy Paper in respect of the new law that will apply after April 2022.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... e-vehicles

Going to catch out 1000s and 1000s.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:48 pm 
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Interesting that it only applies to England and Wales in the meantime, but will be extended to Scotland and NI in 2023.

Because taxation stuff is still the responsibility of Westminster, I assumed it would apply equally throughout the UK. But I'm guessing the reason is that it will require changes to the devolved licensing legislation, so that's the domain of the Scottish Parliament and NI Assembly (I thought Wales was the same in that regard, but maybe not).


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:39 am 
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I hope that this will also extend to the use of escorts on school contracts. i am fed up with trying to compete with people who pay their escorts in cash at around £4-5 per hour. Also if this is for drivers badges and operators licenses then the 2022 date could be useless. If a driver has his badge renewal in march 2022 then he doesn't have another renewal until march 2025 and an operator renewing in March 2022 has 5 years before the next renewal.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:11 am 
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Well it’s got to start at some date, and in time it will effect all license holders.

In respect of school escorts they aren’t licensed, so it’s not for them.

But isn’t there a low pay unit that deals with folks being paid less than the minimum wage?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:36 am 
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Sussex wrote:
Well it’s got to start at some date, and in time it will effect all license holders.

In respect of school escorts they aren’t licensed, so it’s not for them.

But isn’t there a low pay unit that deals with folks being paid less than the minimum wage?

Escorts here are badged by the County Council.
I think the low pay unit deal with complaints from people who are on the low pay. If you are working for a few quid cash in hand and claiming benefits you are not going to complain.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:26 am 
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Grandad wrote:
Escorts here are badged by the County Council.

Which legislation are they badged under?

The licences that will be subject to the 'conditionality' test (as outlined in Sussex's link) seems limited to taxi and PHV licences, so presumably this measure won't apply to escorts?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:31 am 
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StuartW wrote:
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Escorts here are badged by the County Council.

Which legislation are they badged under?

The licences that will be subject to the 'conditionality' test (as outlined in Sussex's link) seems limited to taxi and PHV licences, so presumably this measure won't apply to escorts?

I think they provide a badge more for identification purposes. You can't be an escort without having an enhanced DBS check and they issue to badge to people who have had the check.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:45 am 
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Sounds like they wouldn't be able to apply the tax registration test to issue these badges, then - the list specified by HMG seems confined simply to HC/PHV drivers and PH operators (but oddly not plateholders, as far as I can see). And, of course, the scrap metal dealers.

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Conditionality will introduce a check on tax registration (tax check) for renewed applications in England and Wales for licences to:

    • drive taxis and PHVs (for example, minicabs)
    • operate a PHV business
    • carry on the business of a scrap metal dealer on a site
    • carry on business as a mobile collector of scrap metal


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:37 pm 
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I think the low pay unit deal with complaints from people who are on the low pay. If you are working for a few quid cash in hand and claiming benefits you are not going to complain.

Anyone can make a complaint, you can even complain anon.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:54 pm 
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I put a post on here about 2 years ago.
Saying that all drivers including uber and private hire and Hackneys you should be registered self employed or have a paye number before the council issues you with a licence. And it didn't go down to well with some drivers on this forum i could tell by the reply posts i received.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:08 pm 
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perry wrote:
I put a post on here about 2 years ago.
Saying that all drivers including uber and private hire and Hackneys you should be registered self employed or have a paye number before the council issues you with a licence. And it didn't go down to well with some drivers on this forum i could tell by the reply posts i received.

I'm very happy with what's happening next April. \:D/

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:10 pm 
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Logically when you look at it, councils could start to implement it now on a voluntary basis, from now up to the date that it has to be implemented only issue, yearly licenses unless you Can provide the relative paperwork from the taxman and then you can have a three-year license

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grandad wrote:
I hope that this will also extend to the use of escorts on school contracts. i am fed up with trying to compete with people who pay their escorts in cash at around £4-5 per hour.


County say ours must be PAYE but dont enforce and wont say if its for a whole trip or just while kids are onboard

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