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Derugulation Act 2015 'cross border' section
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Author:  Sussex [ Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Derugulation Act 2015 'cross border' section
Someone recently asked me about these provisions that caused many of the cross-border issues we are currently suffering with.

It's fair to say Uber doesn't use these provisions, but other more traditional PH firms do.

In short the act allows firms to pass work to other firms in different areas.

We were told when the act came in that it would allow firms to legally pass work should one of their cars break down miles from their base. And at that time we all believed that to be a load of old fanny.

And old fanny it was.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20 ... 11/enacted
Author:  jimbo [ Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Derugulation Act 2015 'cross border' section
Sussex wrote:
Someone recently asked me about these provisions that caused many of the cross-border issues we are currently suffering with.

It's fair to say Uber doesn't use these provisions, but other more traditional PH firms do.

In short the act allows firms to pass work to other firms in different areas.

We were told when the act came in that it would allow firms to legally pass work should one of their cars break down miles from their base. And at that time we all believed that to be a load of old fanny.

And old fanny it was.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/20 ... 11/enacted


Uber doesn’t use these provisions? Really? How come there are so many out of town Uber in Brighton then? Asking for a friend.
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Derugulation Act 2015 'cross border' section
Quote:
Uber doesn’t use these provisions? Really? How come there are so many out of town Uber in Brighton then? Asking for a friend.

Your friend is more than welcome to ask.

Uber only issues work to vehicles that are licensed in areas to which they have an operator's license. They follow the A, B, and C rules that have been in place since 1976.

If a customer books a car with Uber their system works out which car will do the job and then directs the booking via the base station that is located in the licensing area of that vehicle.

So if a customer books a car in Brighton, and that booking is fulfilled by a car licensed in Lewes, then that booking is dispatched via the base station located in Lewes. If it was a Chichester vehicle then it would be dispatched via the base station located in Chichester.

So the 2015 Dereg Act had no effect on how Uber operators.

However many large operators do indeed use the 2105 act to use, some say abuse, the cross-border process. They dispatch work from the same office to a multitude of licensed vehicles from different areas. They just get an operator's license from those areas and away they go.
Author:  agabbycabbie [ Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Derugulation Act 2015 'cross border' section
Ok, I will ask, Uber doesn’t have an operators licence in York, (the council stripped them of their licence a few years ago) but Uber does a lot of work in York, done by cars licensed in West Yorkshire, up until a couple of years ago it was a free for all with Uber cars coming from all over, so surely, uber must be abusing the system also.
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Derugulation Act 2015 'cross border' section
agabbycabbie wrote:
Ok, I will ask, Uber doesn’t have an operators licence in York, (the council stripped them of their licence a few years ago) but Uber does a lot of work in York, done by cars licensed in West Yorkshire, up until a couple of years ago it was a free for all with Uber cars coming from all over, so surely, uber must be abusing the system also.

Morally yes, legally no. :sad:

Every job dispatched to a Uber vehicle in York (as in everywhere else) is sent via the base station in the area in which the vehicle is licensed.

But those rules/laws/conditions have been in place since 1976, the 2015 Dereg Act played no part in the, as you say and I agree with, abuse. :sad:
Author:  heathcote [ Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Derugulation Act 2015 'cross border' section
Sussex wrote:
agabbycabbie wrote:
Ok, I will ask, Uber doesn’t have an operators licence in York, (the council stripped them of their licence a few years ago) but Uber does a lot of work in York, done by cars licensed in West Yorkshire, up until a couple of years ago it was a free for all with Uber cars coming from all over, so surely, uber must be abusing the system also.

Morally yes, legally no. :sad:

Every job dispatched to a Uber vehicle in York (as in everywhere else) is sent via the base station in the area in which the vehicle is licensed.

But those rules/laws/conditions have been in place since 1976, the 2015 Dereg Act played no part in the, as you say and I agree with, abuse. :sad:


Uber have never had an operators license in my or a neighbouring L/A yet still use vehicles licensed by these 2 L/As
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Derugulation Act 2015 'cross border' section
Quote:
Uber have never had an operators license in my or a neighbouring L/A yet still use vehicles licensed by these 2 L/As

Well unless they are hackneys then the law is being broken.
Author:  heathcote [ Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Derugulation Act 2015 'cross border' section
Sussex wrote:
Quote:
Uber have never had an operators license in my or a neighbouring L/A yet still use vehicles licensed by these 2 L/As

Well unless they are hackneys then the law is being broken.


To get an operators license in another neighbouring Authority they had to give an assurance that Hackney Carriages would not be used, for obvious reasons.
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