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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:40 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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6.24 Private hire vehicles are not legally available for immediate hiring. To hire a private
hire vehicle the prospective passenger must go through an operator, so the driver will
have an opportunity to check the details of a route before starting a journey and plan
or enter it in a navigation system. Licensing authorities may set private hire vehicle
drivers a topographical test, but are not required to do so.


Just shows what little knowledge of the PH trade the DfT has.

It all seems to make sense, until a customer gets in the car and changes their mind, or the job becomes a multi-job, or heaven forbid the customer hasn't a clue about the name of the road, or heaven forbid part 2 the customer gives a wrong address.

As we work on set prices and not meters, if a customer wants to change their booking it must be done through the office. This means that a new price is calculated and the new destinations are sent to the car. if the driver isn't sure then they just press navigate and follow the route.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:21 pm 
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Price competition in taxi fares

10.4 Taxi fare tariffs are a maximum, and in principle are open to downward negotiation
between passenger and driver. It is not good practice to encourage such negotiations
at ranks, or for on-street hailing; there would be risks of confusion and security
problems

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:42 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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8.19 The National Fire Chief Council (NFCC) recommend that licensing authorities require
fire extinguishers to be provided in vehicles, should ensure that suitable and
sufficient training is received by the drivers.
8.20 The NFCC’s advice is that if a licensing authority elects not to require drivers to
undertake training on the safe way to tackle a vehicle fire, vehicles should not be
required to carry fire extinguishers and drivers advised to get out and stay out of the
vehicle and call 999, rather than attempting to firefight.


So unless the council mandates fire extinguisher training, then they shouldn't be required in taxis and PHVs.



It is not the drivers responsibility to fight vehicle fires it is the fire brigades.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:43 pm 
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11. Taxi ranks and roadside infrastructure

11.8 Authorities should also work with the operators of facilities served by a high volume
of private hire vehicles to ensure that safe spaces are provided for drivers to collect
passengers, without requiring them to navigate busy car parks alone.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:47 pm 
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12.Taxi zones

12.1 The areas of some local licensing authorities are divided into two or more zones for
taxi licensing purposes. Drivers may be licensed to ply for hire in one zone only.
Zones may exist for historical reasons, perhaps because of local authority boundary
changes.
12.2 The Department recommends the abolition of these zones. This would chiefly benefit
the travelling public. Zoning tends to diminish the supply of taxis and the scope for
customer choice – for example, if 50 taxis were licensed overall by a local authority,
but only 25 of them were entitled to ply for hire in each zone. It can be confusing and
frustrating for people wishing to hire a taxi to find that a vehicle licensed by the
relevant local authority is nonetheless unable to pick them up (unless pre-booked)
because they are in the wrong part of the local authority area. Abolition of zones can
also reduce costs for the local authority, for example through simpler administration
and enforcement. It can also promote fuel efficiency, because taxis can pick up a
passenger anywhere in the local authority area, rather than having to return empty to
their licensed zone after dropping a passenger in another zone.


You have to wonder about the utter stupidity of drivers all licensed as hackneys by the same authority not being able to ply in the whole area of that authority. :-k

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:32 pm 
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heathcote wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Emergency equipment

8.19 The National Fire Chief Council (NFCC) recommend that licensing authorities require
fire extinguishers to be provided in vehicles, should ensure that suitable and
sufficient training is received by the drivers.
8.20 The NFCC’s advice is that if a licensing authority elects not to require drivers to
undertake training on the safe way to tackle a vehicle fire, vehicles should not be
required to carry fire extinguishers and drivers advised to get out and stay out of the
vehicle and call 999, rather than attempting to firefight.


So unless the council mandates fire extinguisher training, then they shouldn't be required in taxis and PHVs.



It is not the drivers responsibility to fight vehicle fires it is the fire brigades.

That is exactly what our Council were eventually told by the fire service which led to the condition being dropped from our policy.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:25 am 
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Got the same sorted here 18 years ago Grandad.

I am strongly of the opinion "get everyone out and let the Bugger Burn". Insurance covers the loss. Put it out and insurance won't cover repair in full.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:17 pm 
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heathcote wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Emergency equipment

8.19 The National Fire Chief Council (NFCC) recommend that licensing authorities require
fire extinguishers to be provided in vehicles, should ensure that suitable and
sufficient training is received by the drivers.
8.20 The NFCC’s advice is that if a licensing authority elects not to require drivers to
undertake training on the safe way to tackle a vehicle fire, vehicles should not be
required to carry fire extinguishers and drivers advised to get out and stay out of the
vehicle and call 999, rather than attempting to firefight.


So unless the council mandates fire extinguisher training, then they shouldn't be required in taxis and PHVs.



It is not the drivers responsibility to fight vehicle fires it is the fire brigades.


I seem to recall a post on here ages ago which implied the Insurance companies won't pay out if you attempted to extinguish your own vehicle fire and it was in your best interest to let your vehicle burn to a crisp.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:54 pm 
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I recall it too.

Pretty sure I wrote it.

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