I've been suspended today!

smiffyz (geoff) · **Posted:** Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:30 pm

Further to this thread: http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5275

I got a phone call at 2.15pm today, The LO asked if i was with an operator yet, i said no, so he said he was suspending my vehicle.
I explained that i've removed my plates (as he asked 2 weeks ago) and he said it doesnt matter you cant have a licenced PH vehicle unless your with an operator.
Now does this mean i now dont have an MOT? because obviously my compliance certificate is suspended as well?
My insurance is sd &p as well as PH, but will this now be void as well?

When i asked him to enclose a copy of the relevent law he was quoting to me he said you'll have to find it yourself!
As the suspension will be by letter, i cant appeal until i have it in my hand (so he tell's me).

HELP!!!!

MR T · **Joined:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm **Posts:** 8529

I think your insurance should be OK, but check with them anyway, do you have a ordinarily MoT and compliance test, or just a compliance test. we have compliance test only which overrides the MoT certificate, but I always get them to give me a MoT certificate as well it usually costs a fiver. I think what we would do here is simply hand the plates in and asked them to keep them until you're ready to go back on the road.

JD · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm **Posts:** 10381

smiffyz (geoff) wrote:

Further to this thread: http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5275

I got a phone call at 2.15pm today, The LO asked if i was with an operator yet, i said no, so he said he was suspending my vehicle.
I explained that i've removed my plates (as he asked 2 weeks ago) and he said it doesnt matter you cant have a licenced PH vehicle unless your with an operator.
Now does this mean i now dont have an MOT? because obviously my compliance certificate is suspended as well?
My insurance is sd &p as well as PH, but will this now be void as well?

When i asked him to enclose a copy of the relevent law he was quoting to me he said you'll have to find it yourself!
As the suspension will be by letter, i cant appeal until i have it in my hand (so he tell's me).

HELP!!!!

He cant suspend you until you have the official letter. See what it says and we'll take it from there, if you wish, you can appeal, which will give you the right to do what you want until the appeal is heard.

Regards

JD

JD · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm **Posts:** 10381

smiffyz (geoff) wrote:

Further to this thread: http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5275

I got a phone call at 2.15pm today, The LO asked if i was with an operator yet, i said no, so he said he was suspending my vehicle.
I explained that i've removed my plates (as he asked 2 weeks ago) and he said it doesnt matter you cant have a licenced PH vehicle unless your with an operator.
Now does this mean i now dont have an MOT? because obviously my compliance certificate is suspended as well?
My insurance is sd &p as well as PH, but will this now be void as well?

When i asked him to enclose a copy of the relevent law he was quoting to me he said you'll have to find it yourself!
As the suspension will be by letter, i cant appeal until i have it in my hand (so he tell's me).

HELP!!!!

Unless you have been given special dispensation to take your plates off, they should remain on the vehicle.

There is case law on this on TDO. I'll try and find it.

Regards

JD

MR T · **Joined:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm **Posts:** 8529

I think the licensing officer is taking the approach that once the vehicle is Licence as a private hire vehicle, it is always a private hire vehicle so therefore should be attached to a radio company, there is a case on this is the not JD.

While its licence is in force that is

smiffyz (geoff) · **Posted:** Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:22 pm

Cheers JD, i said i want to appeal and he said i cant until i get the letter, so i will.
Ive just heard that (allegedly) he suspended a driver then threatened to report him for driving without an MOT, i wouldnt know if this was true or not.

Mr T, no i havent got an ordinary MOT (yet) but i will tomorrow :wink:

He's just showing his true colours, last week he told me to remove my plates (in front of witnesses) and it'd be ok, today he suspends me.

JD · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm **Posts:** 10381

MR T wrote:

I think the licensing officer is taking the approach that once the vehicle is Licence as a private hire vehicle, it is always a private hire vehicle so therefore should be attached to a radio company, there is a case on this is the not JD.

While its licence is in force that is

Yes there is and its on TDO, I'll try and locate it.

Regards

JD

JD · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm **Posts:** 10381

Here's the case.

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4547

Regards

JD

smiffyz (geoff) · **Posted:** Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:27 pm

MR T wrote:

I think the licensing officer is taking the approach that once the vehicle is Licence as a private hire vehicle, it is always a private hire vehicle so therefore should be attached to a radio company, there is a case on this is the not JD.

While its licence is in force that is

I'm not on a system at the moment so i cant display door signs.
But the reason i havent suspended my plate is, if i want to work for instance on saturday night, i can ring an operator and be on the road in 1/2 hour, but if my licence is suspended i cant, so surely this is against my right to work and earn a living as a self employed person?

MR T · **Joined:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm **Posts:** 8529

You are on a system, your just on holiday, whether it be one day a week or the full week does not matter , do your conditions say that you must display your door signs at all times

MR T · **Joined:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm **Posts:** 8529

What do your door signs actually say on them :cry:

Sussex · **Posted:** Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:42 pm

smiffyz (geoff) wrote:

he said it doesnt matter you cant have a licenced PH vehicle unless your with an operator.

Why not apply for a single ops license?

JD · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm **Posts:** 10381

Hussain case

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4646

Regards

JD

smiffyz (geoff) · **Posted:** Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:43 pm

MR T wrote:

You are on a system, you just on holiday, whether it be one day a week or the full week does not matter , do your conditions say that you must display your door signs at all times

No, they say door signs must be displayed. (not at all times)

I dont have a problem with displaying at all times IF thats what the rules state, but they dont.

I'd like to see where it says A PH vehicle MUST be assigned to an operator AT ALL TIMES as well.
As ive said, if he suspends me and i want to work one weekend i cant because he needs to unsuspend me!
I took my plates off as he told me to (now after reading JD's post that was illegal!).

MR T · **Joined:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm **Posts:** 8529

Sussex wrote:

smiffyz (geoff) wrote:

he said it doesnt matter you cant have a licenced PH vehicle unless your with an operator.

Why not apply for a single ops license?

I was thinking of that, but he if he doesn't want the door signs on it defeats the object

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