8 seats plus driver.....lots of luggage space
for sale, 46 coach seats...
not many PH buses have a toilet!
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:17 am ] |
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A vehicle that has the capacity to carry 12 passengers if the operator declares that he will only be carrying 8 passengers? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:24 am ] |
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grandad wrote: A vehicle that has the capacity to carry 12 passengers if the operator declares that he will only be carrying 8 passengers?
They can only license it if it has 8 or fewer passenger seats. It might have the capacity to seat 100, but it must only have 8 or fewer passenger seats. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:42 am ] |
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8 seats plus driver.....lots of luggage space for sale, 46 coach seats... not many PH buses have a toilet!
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:49 am ] |
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Sussex wrote: grandad wrote: A vehicle that has the capacity to carry 12 passengers if the operator declares that he will only be carrying 8 passengers? They can only license it if it has 8 or fewer passenger seats. It might have the capacity to seat 100, but it must only have 8 or fewer passenger seats. What if the seats are not clearly defined as in bench seats? There is no upper width size for seats. The reason I ask is that one of my limo mates has bought a large suv type limo that clearly has a seating capacity of at least 12 passengers but his LO has given the vehicle PH plates for 8 passengers and was happy to do so. I have absolutly no doubt that this operator will only ever carry 8 passengers and not one more but could he still have a problem if he gets a tug from VOSA etc. Or because he has plates can he tell VOSA that it is none of their business. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:51 am ] |
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how many seatbelts?.... btw, VOSA can pull anyone, not just PCV/HGV....PSV/LGV, whetever... |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:05 am ] |
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It could be both PCV and PH..if the Extra seats are removed when it resorts back tp PH and youve got a special Extra use class on your PCV permit/Licence. dunno if it'd be easy finding an insurance cove to both uses though. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:09 am ] |
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The seats are not removable. The seat belts, I presume will be removed so that there are only 8 in the car. But don't forget that there is no legal requirement to have seat belts on side facing and rear facing seats. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:10 am ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: how many seatbelts?....
btw, VOSA can pull anyone, not just PCV/HGV....PSV/LGV, whetever... Could VOSA over rule the councils decision on the number of seats? |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:58 am ] |
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grandad wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: how many seatbelts?.... btw, VOSA can pull anyone, not just PCV/HGV....PSV/LGV, whetever... Could VOSA over rule the councils decision on the number of seats? they may or may not, but they would call in The Construction and Use rules...its always the fine print that gets you |
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| Author: | no tips [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:57 pm ] |
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Grandad is this another con your limo lot are trying now the self drive lark is faceing problems.. 
will we see 200 stretch hummers with dance floors council licensed |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:32 pm ] |
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grandad wrote: What if the seats are not clearly defined as in bench seats? There is no upper width size for seats.
I think the number of seat-belts is then counted. Also I think there is a minimum size area for each customer, but I can't remember what it is. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:33 pm ] |
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grandad wrote: But don't forget that there is no legal requirement to have seat belts on side facing and rear facing seats.
No council will license a vehicle without the required number of seat belts. |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:45 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: Also I think there is a minimum size area for each customer, but I can't remember what it is.
400mm or 16 inches in old money, measured across the front of the seat, if my memory is still working OK. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:25 pm ] |
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no tips wrote: Grandad is this another con your limo lot are trying now the self drive lark is faceing problems..
will we see 200 stretch hummers with dance floors council licensed No not at all. This is one of the good guys who has been licensed for years. He never has and never will carry over 8 passengers. I am just concerned that he could fall foul of something because the vehicle could carry more passengers. Is the self drive facing problems? |
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| Author: | MR T [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:27 pm ] |
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grandad wrote: no tips wrote: Grandad is this another con your limo lot are trying now the self drive lark is faceing problems.. will we see 200 stretch hummers with dance floors council licensed No not at all. This is one of the good guys who has been licensed for years. He never has and never will carry over 8 passengers. I am just concerned that he could fall foul of something because the vehicle could carry more passengers. Is the self drive facing problems? |
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