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If you are a HC Driver and owner, you should get a private hire operators licence if you wish to undertake journeys that do not start or finish in your district.

Private hire operators are allowed to use HC's to undertake private hire bookings, however, the meter must always be used and no call out charge can be made. You can never charge more than what is on the meter either.

Basically you're just doing a standard pick up in your HC. However, you cannot ply for hire outside of your district in that vehicle, and any out of distict bookings can only be made at the address of the operators licence, either in person or over the phone.

Regarding the Advertising bit, the L/O is talking out of his jacksy. WHy can't a HC driver advertise his services.

I think that £300 for a three year licence to do this, is money well spent.

You get the best of both worlds then.

Anybody wishing to question this should read the 1976 Act.

Author:	fletcher [ Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:03 am ]
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I own and drive a H/C. I work the rank and take bookings on the phone My local l/o tells me that if I wish to advertise, I must have an PH operators license @ a cost of Approx £300.00 per 3 years. Is this the case or is my l/o misguided.

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:54 am ]
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What area do you work Fletcher? This has been covered before on TDO, but I believe that any bookings you take in your area, or for pick-ups in your area is fine. As agreed by the courts. However the grey bit is for bookings you pick up outside your area. Most in the know think that is OK as well, but I have my doubts. As for £300 for an operators license for one car, I find that very expensive. Ask your council if that's right, because some of the biggest operators around don't pay that much.

Author:	Guest [ Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:23 am ]
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The case is the doncaster case, you do not need operators license for taxis unless, you charge per passenger. councils sometimes take the [edited by admin] tell your licensing officer to see a taxidermist. Geoff

Author:	Guest [ Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:30 am ]
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But that only dealt with bookings/hirings within the district, not outside of it.

Author:	Guest [ Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:21 am ]
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If you are a HC Driver and owner, you should get a private hire operators licence if you wish to undertake journeys that do not start or finish in your district. Private hire operators are allowed to use HC's to undertake private hire bookings, however, the meter must always be used and no call out charge can be made. You can never charge more than what is on the meter either. Basically you're just doing a standard pick up in your HC. However, you cannot ply for hire outside of your district in that vehicle, and any out of distict bookings can only be made at the address of the operators licence, either in person or over the phone. Regarding the Advertising bit, the L/O is talking out of his jacksy. WHy can't a HC driver advertise his services. I think that £300 for a three year licence to do this, is money well spent. You get the best of both worlds then. Anybody wishing to question this should read the 1976 Act.

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Author:	Guest [ Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:38 am ]
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Anonymous wrote: Anybody wishing to question this should read the 1976 Act. I think thats part of the problem, even the highest courts in the land struggle with the greyness of the 1976 act.

Author:	Guest [ Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:57 am ]
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Anonymous wrote: If you are a HC Driver and owner, you should get a private hire operators licence if you wish to undertake journeys that do not start or finish in your district. Private hire operators are allowed to use HC's to undertake private hire bookings, however, the meter must always be used and no call out charge can be made. You can never charge more than what is on the meter either. Basically you're just doing a standard pick up in your HC. However, you cannot ply for hire outside of your district in that vehicle, and any out of distict bookings can only be made at the address of the operators licence, either in person or over the phone. Regarding the Advertising bit, the L/O is talking out of his jacksy. WHy can't a HC driver advertise his services. I think that £300 for a three year licence to do this, is money well spent. You get the best of both worlds then. Anybody wishing to question this should read the 1976 Act. load of Bollox. you can do a job outside the district as long as you recived the booking in it, so if you are in next doors patch and you recieve a booking on the radio you cant legaly do it, but you should anyway if it worked like you said we would never pick up at airports and they would not let us, but thats not the case. if you recive a booking in the district to go within the district you are right meter fare, but if you get a job inside the district to take a passenger outside its negotiation tarriff not apply. 3rd point about bookings not true either, and the rules were made prior to telephones so they do not come into it. carrier pidgeons, booking on rank for later, all sorts of ways you can take a booking. and finaly the judge has ruled suprisingly in the Doncaster case that THE 76 ACT DOES NOT APPLY TO TAXIS.

Author:	Guest [ Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:02 am ]
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Anonymous wrote: Anonymous wrote: Anybody wishing to question this should read the 1976 Act. I think thats part of the problem, even the highest courts in the land struggle with the greyness of the 1976 act. ITS A BIG PART OF THE PROBLEM, TAXIS ARE NOT PART OF THIS ACT SEE DONCASTER CASE/

Author:	Guest [ Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:05 am ]
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Anonymous wrote: But that only dealt with bookings/hirings within the district, not outside of it. NO IT DIDNT! the Doncaster case was about whether you need an opperators license or not, and it said you dont in district out district was not an issue do you make it up as you go along?

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