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And as for the sums I am not one of the 99% of companies.

As well as our PMR system we also have a company mobile for each vehicle already, so transfering the contract from phone to PDA means a far lower cost increase.

As we currently spend an obscene amount on renting two fabulous ariels with two landlines needed our ongoing costs will possibly reduce.

Then the resale value of our CT3000's should pay what O2 want for us upgraging to PDA's.

Happy days.

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Hi Don

Ok then please give us all an idea on the cost of a Cordic system INCLUDING ALL charges for a five year period.

Also please can you tell us all if the UK GPRS network every has outages and what sort of backup is there to these outages?

regards Radioman

Hi Again Don,

Sorry but your talking a load of utter garbage. There is a place in the market for both PMR and GPRS. PMR is NOT DEAD even though the way you are talking that it is.

As for techonology, I suggest that next time you attend one of the trade shows you have a look around at what equipment is on offer. There are a number of units that do GPRS and PMR.

Whats your biggest fleet on GPRS at the moment then Don? Your ANTI-PMR stance shines thru in your postings and I wonder if it shines thru in your sales pitch as well?

Also please tell us all about how the office contacts the driver by voice and how much this will cost?


regards RadioMan

Dear Radioman

The aim of my posting was to highlight that the comparison cost of the two systems shown above is flawed and inaccurate for the reasons that I gave in my previous posting. I urged people who are seriously looking to buy a new system to do their homework and not rely on these figures because they are wrong.

Some large taxi firms have moved from PMR to GPRS ( e.g. 5000 taxis)

http://www.sttelemedia.com/newsroom/spg.asp?NewsID=95


or Automobile Association (like to be known as fourth largest Emergency Services) switched to GPRS from PMR with 3600 cars. They must have done their homework regarding reliability and availability of GPRS network.

http://www.detica.com/indexed/CaseStudy_AAonMove.htm

Also, a very large taxi firm in the UK is currently looking very seriously to switch over from PMR to GPRS.

Don

Yes I know that large organisations such as the AA have switched from their own PMR system to GPRS but they do not handle the same amount of work being dispatched as a taxi company (fleet size dependant).

As for large taxi fleets using GPRS I also know about this and have been involved on such a project with a fleet of 3000 vehicles.

What I am trying to highlight is your ANTI-PMR stance and the way that you try to sell GPRS to folk.

GPRS is NOT the be all and end ALL of communitcations and you have to remember that but at the end of the day your trying to make a sale and people must also remember that. You will defend your product to the hilt.

Some questions have been asked and you have not answered them, so here they are again:

1. What is the monthly charge for GPRS.
2. What is the maximum amount of bandwidth you are allowed before extra charging.
3. What is the minimum contract period for GPRS.
4. If units are not being used is the customer still being charged
5. How much are normal voice calls from the unit
6. How much are voice calls to the unit
7. How often can you ping a vehicle for location.
8. What do you have as a fallback if GPRS network goes down

These are just a few things that you could start to answer.

If you cut out the ANTI-PMR mode that you seem to be in and stop the scare mongering that PMR is going then I might have a bit more respect for your product.

regards RadioMan

You raised the issue of availability and reliability of GPRS network. I just gave an example of a company, which relies heavily on availability, reliability, and coverage of their radio communications



Just wanted to address Fleet size issue that you raised.



I am not trying to sell anything to anyone here. I started by highlighting the errors in the figures presented with my reasons. I can't see any argument about my reasons here and I urged people to do their own research and not rely on these figures. Perhaps this is not a correct way of selling our product in your book!!

I have no ANTI-PMR stance. If someone believes that the future of say Television is Digital TV, you can't accuse them of ANTI- Analogue TV? It is just an opinion. Only time will tell.



I think, a descent salesman should believe in the product that is trying to sell. I am very proud of our product but I am not trying to sell anything here. If you read my postings, I have not even mentioned the price of our product, fleet size suitability or reliability, etc. I have simply referred you to companies that they have switched to GPRS from PMR.

I agree that GPRS is NOT the be all and end ALL communications.



As you have correctly mentioned, the above questions are JUST a few things that potential customers should consider seriously.

These questiones are very much sales related questions and I leave it to serious buyers to ask me. They can evaluate all available options.

We earn respect for our product in the field not forums !

I wouldn't dare use the AA as a reference. They take an average two hours for a call out !!!! Our firm likes to be a little more responsive than that.

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