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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:09 am 
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The auriga doo was very good at the bt tower & finally saw the ct 4000 data heads actually working with yes turn by turn navigation yes b4 anybody says it yes turn by turn working also the package for the xda s was very good also seen them working any body else there have any comments?


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Yep, I was there - it was a really good day. Never knew the BT Tower looked like that inside and was amazed at the views from the revolving restaurant (my ears popped going up and down in the fast lift though). I felt really important going in to a building 'Not open to the public'

I was really impressed to see the CT4000 in car demonstration WITH navigation software (really working), and PDA's working, BOTH on GPRS! The PDA's were connected to a live site in Twickenham (didn't think Auriga had anyone using GPRS). Auriga were booking 'real' jobs in to the live system and despatching them to the PDA's!

The presentations were good and gave a lot of information about the CT4000's and PDA's - couldn't believe the new features they are coming up with - lots of stuff that other companies like Cordic and Autocab have too, but other stuff I’ve never thought about..

One thing they talked about a lot was something called GPRS data averaging (?!?). The Auriga GPRS package (if you use with no PMR) gives a 6MB GPRS Data limit per month per user. If 1 user uses 7MB, but some else uses only 5MB, the 2 are added together and then averaged out, meaning on average 6MB has been used. Sounds like a great idea, and a great way to keep the costs down.

Talking of costs, the prices for GPRS didn't seem too bad either. They had a GPRS only price, and then a GPRS fallback price (for those wanting to use PMR, they can fall back to GPRS if they lose PMR signal). This one sounds like the best of both worlds to me.

Great day out - great presentations, great food and great views of London!


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Auriga were booking 'real' jobs in to the live system and despatching them to the PDA's!

About three years after some of their competitors. :roll:

But have they sorted out the issue of not being able to book drivers off, via the meter, if the handset is out of the cradle? :?

If not then the CT5000 is a cheaters charter. :shock:

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Sussex wrote:
About three years after some of their competitors. :roll:
True. But then how long before their competitors realise that PMR is not dead and catch up to Auriga?

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But have they sorted out the issue of not being able to book drivers off, via the meter, if the handset is out of the cradle? :?

If not then the CT5000 is a cheaters charter. :shock:
Must be missing something, as that makes no sense whatsoever....

If you dont want the PDA removed from the cradle, then get a CT4000 with GPRS.

My understanding of the PDA is that is being marketed at a specific group within the idustry. Also it has built in GPS and GPRS. Drivers will be tracked regardless of whether they take the PDA out of the car or not.

There is no more cheating possible with a PDA than can be done with a CT4000 or a CT3000.

The idea of a PDA or Data Unit is choice - if you don't like the idea of one, don't buy it!

Also, whats a CT5000?


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So ITK.

How did prices compare. Cordic introduce you to Genesis, but have no part of the deal (maybe an introduction fee?).

We get 5MB of data a month, no transferable, but more than we need.

We also get another free sim card, with no monthly rental and cheap calls.

All this costs £7.50 a month.

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Tom Thumb wrote:
So ITK.

How did prices compare. Cordic introduce you to Genesis, but have no part of the deal (maybe an introduction fee?).

We get 5MB of data a month, no transferable, but more than we need.

We also get another free sim card, with no monthly rental and cheap calls.

All this costs £7.50 a month.


The auriga one for a 2 year contract is £7.50 a month too, with a 6 MB data limit.

Like the idea of the additional voice sim card sounds a good idea.


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intheknow wrote:

I was really impressed to see the CT4000 in car demonstration WITH navigation software (really working), and PDA's working, BOTH on GPRS!


The big question is whether anyone can you trust them? They have been demonstrating and displaying PDA at their stand and advertising materials over the past two years and claiming that it works! The same story applies to their CT4000 units. The moral of marketing story is "Don't try to sell something that you haven't got it". I suppose we need few people to put their hands in their pocket and test it out for the rest of us.

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One thing they talked about a lot was something called GPRS data averaging (?!?). The Auriga GPRS package (if you use with no PMR) gives a 6MB GPRS Data limit per month per user. If 1 user uses 7MB, but some else uses only 5MB, the 2 are added together and then averaged out, meaning on average 6MB has been used. Sounds like a great idea, and a great way to keep the costs down.


This is called Bundled Data for business users. Check it out in Google. It has been available from network operators since 2001. The same has been available on shared minutes for voice users within a group. Auriga has rename it as "GPRS data averaging" and perhaps claims this new invention !! It makes me think twice about the rest of their claims. Good luck with them if they can get out of their current situation.


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Don wrote:
intheknow wrote:

I was really impressed to see the CT4000 in car demonstration WITH navigation software (really working), and PDA's working, BOTH on GPRS!


The big question is whether anyone can you trust them? They have been demonstrating and displaying PDA at their stand and advertising materials over the past two years and claiming that it works! The same story applies to their CT4000 units. The moral of marketing story is "Don't try to sell something that you haven't got it". I suppose we need few people to put their hands in their pocket and test it out for the rest of us.


What, you mean like Black and White in Twickenham, Hove Streamline, Lansdowne?

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One thing they talked about a lot was something called GPRS data averaging (?!?). The Auriga GPRS package (if you use with no PMR) gives a 6MB GPRS Data limit per month per user. If 1 user uses 7MB, but some else uses only 5MB, the 2 are added together and then averaged out, meaning on average 6MB has been used. Sounds like a great idea, and a great way to keep the costs down.


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This is called Bundled Data for business users. Check it out in Google. It has been available from network operators since 2001. The same has been available on shared minutes for voice users within a group. Auriga has rename it as "GPRS data averaging" and perhaps claims this new invention !! It makes me think twice about the rest of their claims.


The point is not such that it is a new feature, but I've not heard of anyone else saying they do it.

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Good luck with them if they can get out of their current situation.

What situation? Tell us whatcya know


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Also, whats a CT5000?

It's what I call their PDA. :wink:

I tried telling someone else about the cradle problem, took about a month but got there in the end.

If you take the PDA out of the cradle, then if you go mobile as a taxi the meter link doesn't book you off the point. So if your rank job goes local you are still booked on.

So those ghastly hackney boys can cheat us little PH angels. :shock:

But by all accounts it's being sorted out. :-$

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intheknow wrote:
The auriga one for a 2 year contract is £7.50 a month too, with a 6 MB data limit.

Someone told me it was £7.50 for a one year contract and £6.00 for a two year one. :?

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I think what was very impressive for me was that if you have a pmr set up
u dont have to get rid of it to replace with gprs now u can get a few pda s
to work along with your set up & try them out which for us makes very good sense so u dont break the bank to have a completely new gprs system i am sure a lot of big companies already with auriga will try 5 or 10 pda's to see how well they work also some of the new features on the pda wer very good like automatic call back, accepting the job automatically whilst u are out of the car & also the evocab seems to be working fantastically well for some really large fleets with the ppl i spoke to


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also the evocab seems to be working fantastically well for some really large fleets with the ppl i spoke to

That may well be true, but how many people in the taxi/PH trade do you know who will admit to wasting a quarter of a million pound plus? :?

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Sussex wrote:
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also the evocab seems to be working fantastically well for some really large fleets with the ppl i spoke to

That may well be true, but how many people in the taxi/PH trade do you know who will admit to wasting a quarter of a million pound plus? :?


:lol: That much eh? Strange - they advertise a core system from £16k or something.......


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i dont personally know of any company that has paid that kind of money for just the evocab sussex but if they have then they are mugs cuz i know how much ive paid :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


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labraiz wrote:
i dont personally know of any company that has paid that kind of money for just the evocab sussex but if they have then they are mugs cuz i know how much ive paid :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Well if they have 500 units. :wink:

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