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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:50 pm 
and taken a beating with the ugly stick.


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Right, I think I do remember you. Didn’t I lend you a fiver last time I was there? :lol:

Yep I was down there a bit more than once, in fact the flippin car knew its own way there at one time. I don’t know if you were aware of what actually happened up there but I think the company was the first one to ever run our Windows package. I had given HB a beta (test) copy of our code to have a play with on his back office machine to get some feedback. Next thing I know it’s a Friday night and he’s running the bloody thing warts and all without letting us know. Still, I suppose we should be thankful for him volunteering to be guinea pig and we managed to make some good improvements to our code as a result. Even so, there’s a limit to how long we could spend making changes and this all came to a head after several months when HB was on a roll and started demanding time scales for his ideas. We reminded him we weren’t his staff to make demands of, or were we being paid for the work, or had he paid anything for the software. Clearly this went down like a lead balloon but it had to be said.

So I suppose your initial assessment was pretty much spot on although I can’t comment on the rents but then again you’re a taxi driver and can afford it. :mrgreen:

Just one final thing before I sod/nod off. Was the building really a public toilet in the past or could it just have been Slicks slippers. :mrgreen:

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Bill :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:17 am 
bill_datamaster wrote:
Paul

Hi. Good to see you haven’t had any problems with your supplier, that’s the way it should be. Trouble is though with forums like this, is that anyone that does have any sort of fall out with a supplier can paint a very poor picture of the company when quite often the problem lies within the taxi company itself. Constant pokes at companies does little to help the industry and just tars everyone with the same brush leading to excessive suspicion and doubt.

We get asked what we think of other companies on a regular basis to which we have to reply that they are all pretty much of a much. There are differences but all do much the same and in the absence of any impartial organisation to advise people otherwise, a potential customer just has to do a bit of research and make their own choice.

Bill :)


Bill,
with all due respect I think you ought to get your facts right.

when making a deal over thousands of pounds that involves a promise of further supply of thousands of pounds of equipment to build a complete system, some of us think companies should act responsible

if you cannot read the facts on here or dont want to I beg of you to keep completely out of it.

if you read the background you will learn that paulites in the past have said how brilliant suppliers are, then advertise flogging the kit here months later

we are entltled to advise our friends to beware when we have been bitten.

its hard enough to admit we were done.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:35 am 
well if you spent all your time in gateshead theres a moral to the story your systems create more supply than demand?

still, would like to see it I am intrigued!

does it sell fast tan too? :lol:


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Steady Yorkie


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Yorkie

My facts are right it’s just that you don’t necessarily agree with my view and there’s a difference.

I’m not just saying you shouldn’t complain, just that people should be mindful that not every complaint you read on an open forum is all it’s cracked up to be. I’ve been in this business long enough to realise that while the vast majority of taxi company owners are good normal people, but there are quite a few out there that are bad uns that would rip their granny of given half the chance. Get on the wrong side of some of these and a lot of damage can be done for all the wrong reasons.

Course you should expect service and support if you place you trust in a company and I know that there are some out whose record in this department has been poor to say the least. Yes they deserve a good slating if they rip people off; especially those that do it then just start over again under a different name. Much as I’d like to at times, I can’t get involved in these matters for obvious reasons. In private though, I’ll admit to telling the directors at least two companies face to face that they had not right to be in business on account of their lousy business is business and I don’t give a damn about the customer attitudes. I’ve always had a sayin Yorkie that you don’t have to be a [edited by admin] to be in business and it’s worked for me to the point where I can honestly say that nobody has ever come unstuck with me. I just wish the reverse were true because we’ve been ripped off so many times it’s not funny. :sad:

I haven’t been on this forum that much and as such I don’t know a lot of what’s gone on in the past so cut me a bit of slack for what I don’t know. Even though I run a company, I come on here hopefully as a normal bloke hopefully to share my experiences and hear what others have to say. If at any time you think I’ve got mi salesman’s hat on feel free to knock it off for me. :oops:

Hopefully now yer mate

Bill :)


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Yorkie,

I hate to be so profound, but I think you are out of order in having a pop at Bill.

He is not Diplomat.

He is not a "stooge" of Diplomat.

He is a useless salesman (he said his kit would not do what we wanted!!!)
(But I still like the layout of it best).

And he is one of the true genuine guys in this business.

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bill_datamaster wrote:
Yorkie

Right o. I’ve been having a good read back through some of the old pages on this forum and yes spotted the post where Stewart Harding was very complimentary about the development work that I had done in the past. Don’t read too much into that though because while I would chat with Stewart at meetings and exhibitions he certainly wasn’t on my Christmas card list. In fact it was interesting to read that the company has gone bust, and you may think that as rivals, we would be well aware of this sort of stuff but that’s the first I’ve heard.

Re bricks verses Xda2s, well it all depends what you’re trying to do. There are pros and cons for both systems and without knowing the nature of your business and exact needs I can’t advise you. Can tell you though, the cost of our bricks is 200-300 and that were not a flyby night type company having been involved in taxi data systems since 1989. The way we see it, the value of a data terminal, brick or otherwise depends on it working for you and when it doesn’t, having people to help you. Without such backup or support then the commercial value is academic, it’s a liability to the business.

Bill


Hello Bill, you said you had read that Diplomat have gone bust?... was this recent?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:24 pm 
Andy7 wrote:
Yorkie,

I hate to be so profound, but I think you are out of order in having a pop at Bill.

He is not Diplomat.

He is not a "stooge" of Diplomat.

He is a useless salesman (he said his kit would not do what we wanted!!!)
(But I still like the layout of it best).

And he is one of the true genuine guys in this business.




Andrew
do not know him at all,
he knows Mick apparently and has worked in Gateshead?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

well dunno what to say,


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:25 pm 
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bill_datamaster wrote:
Yorkie

Right o. I’ve been having a good read back through some of the old pages on this forum and yes spotted the post where Stewart Harding was very complimentary about the development work that I had done in the past. Don’t read too much into that though because while I would chat with Stewart at meetings and exhibitions he certainly wasn’t on my Christmas card list. In fact it was interesting to read that the company has gone bust, and you may think that as rivals, we would be well aware of this sort of stuff but that’s the first I’ve heard.

Re bricks verses Xda2s, well it all depends what you’re trying to do. There are pros and cons for both systems and without knowing the nature of your business and exact needs I can’t advise you. Can tell you though, the cost of our bricks is 200-300 and that were not a flyby night type company having been involved in taxi data systems since 1989. The way we see it, the value of a data terminal, brick or otherwise depends on it working for you and when it doesn’t, having people to help you. Without such backup or support then the commercial value is academic, it’s a liability to the business.

Bill


Hello Bill, you said you had read that Diplomat have gone bust?... was this recent?




airphone you are not real,

god knows who or what you are.


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BRICKS V XDAs.

Cost of system and subsequent running costs using XDAs.

Equals, Qoute, plus Airtime costs they forget to tell you, plus support which is £30 per month per unit on top of the advertised price of £30 per month per unit.

So, £60 a month per car x 12 = £720 a year

x 25 cars = £18,000 per year.

Plus additional airtime costs as Data5 has restricted/limited bandwidth or whatever they call it.

x say 5 years life of equipment = £90,000

Makes £300 for a brick, a cheap piece of gear.

Solution?

Run an XDA through a brick. Reliability, plus:

Have automatic cheapest routing system, so that calls can be routed via PMR when local, only adding GPRS/GSM costs when other connections poor or out of range.

Gotta be the answer. Anyone doing that yet?

PS. Pirate copies of the new full length feature film "Ady's Dash, and Andy's feet" will be available soon. First 100 buyers will also receive the Director's cut, which includes tape recordings of miscellaneous garbage that passengers talk all day.

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Hello Bill, you said you had read that Diplomat have gone bust?... was this recent?[/quote]



airphone you are not real,

god knows who or what you are.[/quote]

Make you right on that call Yorkie. :wink: :wink:

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Andy

The new Auriga brick has sim card installed so does as you say, resort to gprs when out of PMR range.

Only thing is, as with all bricks, it is stuck to car, so can't communicate with driver out of car.

And doesn't have compatability with 'outside' programs.

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Tom Thumb wrote:
Andy

The new Auriga brick has sim card installed so does as you say, resort to gprs when out of PMR range.

Only thing is, as with all bricks, it is stuck to car, so can't communicate with driver out of car.

And doesn't have compatability with 'outside' programs.


There are a few companies that now have Sim cards in the data units with others having add on modules for sim cards. As for resorting to GPRS when outside of radio range, well you still have to pay for the GPRS and before anyone goes down this route they should really consider if GPRS is required. Remember if you sign up for a GPRS contract, if you dont use it you still pay for it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:32 am 
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Andy7 wrote:
Yorkie,

I hate to be so profound, but I think you are out of order in having a pop at Bill.

He is not Diplomat.

He is not a "stooge" of Diplomat.

He is a useless salesman (he said his kit would not do what we wanted!!!)
(But I still like the layout of it best).

And he is one of the true genuine guys in this business.




Andrew
do not know him at all,
he knows Mick apparently and has worked in Gateshead?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

well dunno what to say,


He's worked in Mansfield to :D :D :D :D


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