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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:41 pm 
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I think they don't need to pay a bean. Your actions give them loads of free publicity.

Now if you made a constructive critque of them, then more people would take notice. But I suspect the more you curse them, the more it makes you look a plank, and them a sound outfit. :shock:


dont make me laugh Sussex.
we had a diplomat man on here saying the midas code needed updating to put thier name on it.

I pointed out that this was a blatant lie and a contract existed that they did not use the midas name and it was altered

cut the crap, tell the truth.


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If that was what was said then yes it is a Blatant lie.
The Midas code went in two directions over 2 years ago.
Exel have done little with their version and we have created Diplomat Navigator with thousands of hours of refactoring. All you have to do is compare the two programs and the difference is obvious.

Midas would never be associated with Diplomat, however Ivor may have been referring to the fact that both Midas and Navigator are wholly owned by Windowview Ltd. the development company.

Maybe like other post on this forum, Ivors post was moderated and he should edit it again so it makes a bit more sense. :wink:

What on earth is this refernce to some agreement that prevents us from saying or using the name Midas. I know of no such arrangement, it certainly does not exist. As far as I know we simply agreed not to market the name Midas or use it for 6 months when the code was being split. So there nothing sinister about that is there?

Both our programmers (Jason and Matt) are fully qualified Delphi experts and I am sure they may have something so say about being referred to as students (flattering as it is) as they are both over twice the age of most students. :shock: :shock:

Anyway what ever happened to the supportive and vitriolic Mike Scott.
After claiming to change the world in just a few month he then vanished as is by magic. I miss his short and accurate postings. :roll:

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If that was what was said then yes it is a Blatant lie.
The Midas code went in two directions over 2 years ago.
Exel have done little with their version and we have created Diplomat Navigator with thousands of hours of refactoring. All you have to do is compare the two programs and the difference is obvious.

Midas would never be associated with Diplomat, however Ivor may have been referring to the fact that both Midas and Navigator are wholly owned by Windowview Ltd. the development company.

Maybe like other post on this forum, Ivors post was moderated and he should edit it again so it makes a bit more sense. :wink:

What on earth is this refernce to some agreement that prevents us from saying or using the name Midas. I know of no such arrangement, it certainly does not exist. As far as I know we simply agreed not to market the name Midas or use it for 6 months when the code was being split. So there nothing sinister about that is there?

Both our programmers (Jason and Matt) are fully qualified Delphi experts and I am sure they may have something so say about being referred to as students (flattering as it is) as they are both over twice the age of most students. :shock: :shock:

Anyway what ever happened to the supportive and vitriolic Mike Scott.
After claiming to change the world in just a few month he then vanished as is by magic. I miss his short and accurate postings. :roll:




You know Stewart
you cant resist can you? you it was that said you did not use the scott code at all and it was all new, Jackanorie Jackonorie, now you claim they have done nothing with thiers!

how the [edited by admin] do you know? the only time the code did not improve is when your blasted windowview had hold of it.

your big mistake sunshine was allowing Andy 7 to fail with his free set, for him to come on here and say it was switched off made you look the pillock you are.

your system is crap, and you know it, now Andys been on here many others do too.

nowthen Stuart how are the liquidators doing? are they near to sorting out the mess you left avoiding paying your bills including the one to excel?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:19 pm 
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Ivor wrote:
There had to be a huge flurry of development to get Midas into any kind of shape to become worthy of having our own name associated with it...


For the word Midas in the previous quote, read 'the code'. It all makes perfect sense.

Of course, one should never forget that King Midas is famous for having the ears of an ass...
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Now who would want to be associated with someone like that?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:34 pm 
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You know Stewart
you cant resist can you? you it was that said you did not use the scott code at all and it was all new, Jackanorie Jackonorie, now you claim they have done nothing with thiers!

how the bleep do you know? the only time the code did not improve is when your blasted windowview had hold of it.

your big mistake sunshine was allowing Andy 7 to fail with his free set, for him to come on here and say it was switched off made you look the pillock you are.

your system is crap, and you know it, now Andys been on here many others do too.

nowthen Stuart how are the liquidators doing? are they near to sorting out the mess you left avoiding paying your bills including the one to excel?


I take it this is Yorkie :lol: :lol:

You should cut down on your medicine a bit matey. You are dreaming again.

Why should I say all our code was new when we actually paid a lot of money for the Scott code.

I have never once claimed that our code was written from scratch.

However since we started work on our own version over 2 years ago then any comparison cannot be made with Navigator and Midas.
Our code which was originally based on the Scott code has now evolved into something totally diffent. It has been rewritten properly and can be improved and added to in a structured way. (which is what our customers are now seeing the benefits of)

Also I would like to remind you that our blasted Windowview still owns the Midas code so nothing has changed their. Again you are mis informed.

Just because Andy was not happy with his free seat it does not detract from the 600+ other users of NavLite.

There are many satisfied customers that place orders daily and who did say so on this forum.

However some people were so angry that they took to making abusive phone calls to the companies that did post their comments making threats and calling them damned liars

What kind of t***s do that anyway Geoff?
I would certainly like to get my hands on them. :wink: :wink: :wink:

Upsetting as you will find it Navlite has really taken off in the last few months and has shown no sign of slowing up.
We now have over 60 new Navlite sites a month. You can't stop a good thing once it starts. :lol: :D

Check out our forum if you don't believe us.
I certainly don't feel a pillock. 8)

Maybe Andy should try again with real street data,

We even do call popping and full data on the latest Navlite so it is far more up his street now as he can have free software with all the benefits of the professional package. :mrgreen:

I have no idea what you are on about with your comment about liquidators. What do you think liquidators actually do?
They are purely there to ensure that when a company ceases that it is all done legally and above board. Once that is done they are off onto the next case. Why would they be sorting anything out?
What motive would they have and who would pay them?... :?:

Your a bit out of date with your ramblings.. Lets get back into the real world.... Anyone for tennis. :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:27 pm 
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Anonymous wrote:

You know Stewart
you cant resist can you? you it was that said you did not use the scott code at all and it was all new, Jackanorie Jackonorie, now you claim they have done nothing with thiers!

how the bleep do you know? the only time the code did not improve is when your blasted windowview had hold of it.

your big mistake sunshine was allowing Andy 7 to fail with his free set, for him to come on here and say it was switched off made you look the pillock you are.

your system is crap, and you know it, now Andys been on here many others do too.

nowthen Stuart how are the liquidators doing? are they near to sorting out the mess you left avoiding paying your bills including the one to excel?


I take it this is Yorkie :lol: :lol:

You should cut down on your medicine a bit matey. You are dreaming again.

Why should I say all our code was new when we actually paid a lot of money for the Scott code.

I have never once claimed that our code was written from scratch.

However since we started work on our own version over 2 years ago then any comparison cannot be made with Navigator and Midas.
Our code which was originally based on the Scott code has now evolved into something totally diffent. It has been rewritten properly and can be improved and added to in a structured way. (which is what our customers are now seeing the benefits of)

Also I would like to remind you that our blasted Windowview still owns the Midas code so nothing has changed their. Again you are mis informed.

Just because Andy was not happy with his free seat it does not detract from the 600+ other users of NavLite.

There are many satisfied customers that place orders daily and who did say so on this forum.

However some people were so angry that they took to making abusive phone calls to the companies that did post their comments making threats and calling them damned liars

What kind of t***s do that anyway Geoff?
I would certainly like to get my hands on them. :wink: :wink: :wink:

Upsetting as you will find it Navlite has really taken off in the last few months and has shown no sign of slowing up.
We now have over 60 new Navlite sites a month. You can't stop a good thing once it starts. :lol: :D

Check out our forum if you don't believe us.
I certainly don't feel a pillock. 8)

Maybe Andy should try again with real street data,

We even do call popping and full data on the latest Navlite so it is far more up his street now as he can have free software with all the benefits of the professional package. :mrgreen:

I have no idea what you are on about with your comment about liquidators. What do you think liquidators actually do?
They are purely there to ensure that when a company ceases that it is all done legally and above board. Once that is done they are off onto the next case. Why would they be sorting anything out?
What motive would they have and who would pay them?... :?:

Your a bit out of date with your ramblings.. Lets get back into the real world.... Anyone for tennis. :wink:



dont take anything Stewart, are you trying to misslead and say one of your companies didnt go tits up?

and you did say stewart it was all brand new and no Scott code, you did and scott challenged you, and you repeated it.

Stewart you are a little economical with the truth.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:32 pm 
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I am not trying to mislead anyone.
It depends on the definition of your words.
"One of yours"
is not really that easy to quantify as I have never totally owned a company. But certainly over the years I have been involved with and have had shareholdings in comapnies that have ceased trading.

In none of the cases did I own anywhere near half of the shares so I guess that non of them were actually mine.

Read into that whatever you see fit.
But I would say that none of them were mine actually.
It certainly bothers me far less than it bothers you.
If you dabble in shares then some will win and some will lose.

As for the definition of Tits up. I will let you explain exactly what you mean by that, its not a term I come accross that often.
Ceased trading is far more descriptive. At least I know exactly what I mean when I say that.

As for the Scott code. I have never claimed that our base code was not the Scott code.

It was after all myself that brokered the deal to purchase the code of Mike.
It was only then that we discovered that there were various financial additions to the total that Richard was not aware of. How could I forget it. :cry: :cry:

If you are referring to posts on this forum where I claim that the code is not Scott code then kindly ressurect them. It certainly was not posted by me. Do remember we do have people who post as Guest and other Anons. These are the t***s that are probaly confusing you.

What is certain is that the Data Module, The DDS module the PBX interface, the Netdespatcher, All the code that is in the data heads, the PDA's and the Smartphones are all written exclusively from scratch by Diplomat.

As far as the Scott code was concerned we have totally rewritten the booking screen the despatch screen and the data storage mechanisms, there really is little left of the original code. It was poorly conceived and was not scalable to larger operations as some of the medium size customers are beginning to discover.

We needed to write code that could process 50-100K jobs a week and therefore sadly much of the Scott code had to go. However it was a nice idea and like all nice ideas we built on and improved it. So credit must go where it is due. Well done Mike :lol: .. You should have kept up the good work :oops:

Anyway Mr guest why not have the B*lls to write in person rather than sniping your vitriolic rubbish from the shadows... you big girly.. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:06 pm 
Stewart wrote:
I am not trying to mislead anyone.
It depends on the definition of your words.
"One of yours"
is not really that easy to quantify as I have never totally owned a company. But certainly over the years I have been involved with and have had shareholdings in comapnies that have ceased trading.

In none of the cases did I own anywhere near half of the shares so I guess that non of them were actually mine.

Read into that whatever you see fit.
But I would say that none of them were mine actually.
It certainly bothers me far less than it bothers you.
If you dabble in shares then some will win and some will lose.

As for the definition of Tits up. I will let you explain exactly what you mean by that, its not a term I come accross that often.
Ceased trading is far more descriptive. At least I know exactly what I mean when I say that.

As for the Scott code. I have never claimed that our base code was not the Scott code.

It was after all myself that brokered the deal to purchase the code of Mike.
It was only then that we discovered that there were various financial additions to the total that Richard was not aware of. How could I forget it. :cry: :cry:

If you are referring to posts on this forum where I claim that the code is not Scott code then kindly ressurect them. It certainly was not posted by me. Do remember we do have people who post as Guest and other Anons. These are the t***s that are probaly confusing you.

What is certain is that the Data Module, The DDS module the PBX interface, the Netdespatcher, All the code that is in the data heads, the PDA's and the Smartphones are all written exclusively from scratch by Diplomat.

As far as the Scott code was concerned we have totally rewritten the booking screen the despatch screen and the data storage mechanisms, there really is little left of the original code. It was poorly conceived and was not scalable to larger operations as some of the medium size customers are beginning to discover.

We needed to write code that could process 50-100K jobs a week and therefore sadly much of the Scott code had to go. However it was a nice idea and like all nice ideas we built on and improved it. So credit must go where it is due. Well done Mike :lol: .. You should have kept up the good work :oops:

Anyway Mr guest why not have the B*lls to write in person rather than sniping your vitriolic rubbish from the shadows... you big girly.. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Stewart I have never known such a liar as you in my whole life.

you claim to have paid a lot of money for the code yout you never paid a single penny piece the fact is its people like me that paid for this lot.

when your company went tits up in the final directores report you claimed to have a number of data heads with "no commercial value" this crap is what you gave excel for the programme, no commercial value/

in a perfect world stewart you should be in jail now.


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Sorry Geezer.
Firstly if I am the biggest liar you have met in your life you should really get out more.

However the truth will out.
Windowview paid for the Scott code in full and owns the code outright.
This was paid for before the dataheads you speak of were designed.

Now whether the company we purchased it from showed it in their books or dodged paying capital gains tax is another matter. :cry: :cry:
You should phone up the revenue if you think there was anything underhanded. Maybe someone will end up in Jail :wink:

Windowview owns the code whether you like it or not.
Windowview never went tits up as you put it, and is a very profitable company. It always owned the code.

Why don't you PM your mate Mike and ask him to clarify this point.

The company that ceased trading was making dataheads and was absolutely nothing to do with Windowview. It actualy made data heads for Diplomat data systems, Exel Management, Guardian and Cabmaster.

Sorry that you were duped into investing in obsolete stock.
Give me a PM if you need any advice going tits up and stop being a cry baby.

In a perfect world you would be sterile, but I guess we can't keep the gene pool perfect either. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now lets learn to play nicely and love each other :wink:
And Breath....... :roll:

P.S your still a girly...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:38 pm 
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Why do I get sucked into this when I should know better.

Windowview is a very profitable company?

With Tangible assets of zero? (90K in 2002) and shareholders funds of 4,663 (133,178 in 2002).

Profit and loss account showing a loss of £175,337 for year ending June 2003, after a loss of £46,882 in 2002.

Well that is what the accounts say!

For balance I should add that Exel Management's Accounts are now a year overdue.

Windowview's shares were/are owned by Messrs Bayly (118) Harding, L (122) Harding S (250) and Exel Management (490).

Comments please Stewart, before you say ask the Accountant can I point out that you appear to own 25% of the equity and are a director.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:26 am 
Stewart wrote:
Sorry Geezer.
Firstly if I am the biggest liar you have met in your life you should really get out more.

However the truth will out.
Windowview paid for the Scott code in full and owns the code outright.
This was paid for before the dataheads you speak of were designed.

Now whether the company we purchased it from showed it in their books or dodged paying capital gains tax is another matter. :cry: :cry:
You should phone up the revenue if you think there was anything underhanded. Maybe someone will end up in Jail :wink:

Windowview owns the code whether you like it or not.
Windowview never went tits up as you put it, and is a very profitable company. It always owned the code.

Why don't you PM your mate Mike and ask him to clarify this point.

The company that ceased trading was making dataheads and was absolutely nothing to do with Windowview. It actualy made data heads for Diplomat data systems, Exel Management, Guardian and Cabmaster.

Sorry that you were duped into investing in obsolete stock.
Give me a PM if you need any advice going tits up and stop being a cry baby.

In a perfect world you would be sterile, but I guess we can't keep the gene pool perfect either. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now lets learn to play nicely and love each other :wink:
And Breath....... :roll:

P.S your still a girly...



you may con this lot you wont con me.
first of all the code was payed it had to be but by winderview jackanory

you stewart are holding on to stuff you have no moral right to and as Tom Thumb says, you couldnt make a profit if you tried.

Jason get out now while you can you are surrounded by tricksters and con men.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:26 am 
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Sorry Geezer.
Firstly if I am the biggest liar you have met in your life you should really get out more.

However the truth will out.
Windowview paid for the Scott code in full and owns the code outright.
This was paid for before the dataheads you speak of were designed.

Now whether the company we purchased it from showed it in their books or dodged paying capital gains tax is another matter. :cry: :cry:
You should phone up the revenue if you think there was anything underhanded. Maybe someone will end up in Jail :wink:

Windowview owns the code whether you like it or not.
Windowview never went tits up as you put it, and is a very profitable company. It always owned the code.

Why don't you PM your mate Mike and ask him to clarify this point.

The company that ceased trading was making dataheads and was absolutely nothing to do with Windowview. It actualy made data heads for Diplomat data systems, Exel Management, Guardian and Cabmaster.

Sorry that you were duped into investing in obsolete stock.
Give me a PM if you need any advice going tits up and stop being a cry baby.

In a perfect world you would be sterile, but I guess we can't keep the gene pool perfect either. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now lets learn to play nicely and love each other :wink:
And Breath....... :roll:

P.S your still a girly...



you may con this lot you wont con me.
first of all the code was payed it had to be but by winderview jackanory

you stewart are holding on to stuff you have no moral right to and as Tom Thumb says, you couldnt make a profit if you tried.

Jason get out now while you can you are surrounded by tricksters and con men.


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I recently read the following..

you may con this lot you wont con me.
first of all the code was payed it had to be but by winderview jackanory

............................

Who is this lot?
As far as I was aware there are about 5 regulars on this thread, hardly a lot me thinks..

What the Fccc are you on about anyway.
This is not even English. First you said it was not paid for, then it was.. then your English fails you..

Stop ranting girl and catch your breath..

Rest assured Windowview did pay for the Code in full and therefore totally owns it. Exel then sold their shares in Windowview so they no longer own any of the code.

I am a shareholder of Windowview and make no secret of it.

And so I have to keep saying like a scratched record...
Why dont you just write it down and stick it on yer monitor...
I really don't know what you guys are trying to discover or uncover.
Did I mention our weapon of mass destruction or was our software of mass consumption that upset you. :wink:

Anyway I really have to go as we are going through busy patch at the moment.

Our forum is considerably busier than yows. :mrgreen:

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Our forum is considerably busier than yows. :mrgreen:


Very mature Stewart.

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