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Author:  Sussex [ Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Voice
Please can someone come up with a decent voice system.

I know Data is the in thing, and those that critisise it are old fashioned. But there has to be a better way than data.

A Dino
Author:  Radioman [ Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Voice
Sussex wrote:
Please can someone come up with a decent voice system.

I know Data is the in thing, and those that critisise it are old fashioned. But there has to be a better way than data.

A Dino


Ok then Mr Sussex, lets have a little debate on this subject (leaving data out of it).

The question is what do you want from a voice radio system?

Improved radio coverage
Better audio quality

Only a couple of things too start the ball rolling.

Look forward to the debate

regards
RadioMan
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:31 pm ]
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Getting the customer's name right would be a good start.

Since we went to data, I have been asked to pick up quite a few akmcsusidi :shock: and a few hlfkhohllfd :shock:. Whereas with voice, even the thickest op can get it right.

Coverage is an issue, but I still managed to pay the mortgage when we had voice. But in my view our data coverage isn't that much better than when we had voice.

Also with data, unless you have millions of zones you still get drivers passing each other to jobs. And I find that un-forgivable. :sad:

I wonder if there is a market for a system that combines the old with the new, and if there is, can one buy shares in it?
Author:  Radioman [ Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:53 pm ]
Post subject: 
Sussex wrote:
Getting the customer's name right would be a good start.

Since we went to data, I have been asked to pick up quite a few akmcsusidi :shock: and a few hlfkhohllfd :shock:. Whereas with voice, even the thickest op can get it right.

Coverage is an issue, but I still managed to pay the mortgage when we had voice. But in my view our data coverage isn't that much better than when we had voice.

Also with data, unless you have millions of zones you still get drivers passing each other to jobs. And I find that un-forgivable. :sad:

I wonder if there is a market for a system that combines the old with the new, and if there is, can one buy shares in it?


Ok lets take the first point with regards the names etc. This is operator error, simple as that.

Yes your coverage from data will be reduced due to the fact that your data channel will use a lot less power (usually 5 watts) than voice (usually 10w or more).

With regards drivers passing that is due to the fact that they are plotting in areas and the system is not dispatching work to the car nearest the job. In voice systems this can happen but due to cars false locating (and data systems with no gps correction).

Old and new combined? What have some of the jobs going out by voice and the others data?

A lot of the problems you have put forward can be sorted.
Author:  Yorkie [ Sat Nov 20, 2004 4:53 am ]
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this is like being in primary school.

look sussex, if you pay penuts you will get monkeys, get properly trained controllers,

not dolies looking for pin money.
Author:  TDO [ Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:20 pm ]
Post subject: 
Yorkie wrote:
not dolies looking for pin money.


Wot, you mean like Jinxy? :D
Author:  Sussex [ Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:54 pm ]
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The problem I see with data is that really it's one big fat con.

Large fleet owners feel obliged to buy it, because their competitors have it. They are told by flash salesmen that they will lose work and then cars.

I wonder why I have never picked up a punter that has said he/she rang us because we had data. :roll: :roll:

Then once the deal is signed, Mr Flash is long gone. Unless a crazy maintenance contract is also signed.

However the boss who signed the contracts is never going to say he has bought a pile of s***. So he sings the praises of the system to everyone that he can. Mr Flash then gets more phone calls from other operators, and the con carries on.
Author:  Radioman [ Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:12 am ]
Post subject: 
Sussex wrote:
The problem I see with data is that really it's one big fat con.

Large fleet owners feel obliged to buy it, because their competitors have it. They are told by flash salesmen that they will lose work and then cars.

I wonder why I have never picked up a punter that has said he/she rang us because we had data. :roll: :roll:

Then once the deal is signed, Mr Flash is long gone. Unless a crazy maintenance contract is also signed.

However the boss who signed the contracts is never going to say he has bought a pile of s***. So he sings the praises of the system to everyone that he can. Mr Flash then gets more phone calls from other operators, and the con carries on.


Mr Sussex,
You started this debate off asking about voice, now your shouting your mouth off about how much you hate data systems.

Why did you not just label the thread "I HATE DATA DISPATCH SYSTEMS"

regards
RadioMan
Author:  Nidge2 [ Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:24 am ]
Post subject: 
Radioman wrote:
Sussex wrote:
The problem I see with data is that really it's one big fat con.

Large fleet owners feel obliged to buy it, because their competitors have it. They are told by flash salesmen that they will lose work and then cars.

I wonder why I have never picked up a punter that has said he/she rang us because we had data. :roll: :roll:

Then once the deal is signed, Mr Flash is long gone. Unless a crazy maintenance contract is also signed.

However the boss who signed the contracts is never going to say he has bought a pile of s***. So he sings the praises of the system to everyone that he can. Mr Flash then gets more phone calls from other operators, and the con carries on.


Mr Sussex,
You started this debate off asking about voice, now your shouting your mouth off about how much you hate data systems.

Why did you not just label the thread "I HATE DATA DISPATCH SYSTEMS"

regards
RadioMan


There's no pleasing some folks.
Author:  Yorkie [ Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:50 am ]
Post subject: 
Sussex wrote:
The problem I see with data is that really it's one big fat con.

Large fleet owners feel obliged to buy it, because their competitors have it. They are told by flash salesmen that they will lose work and then cars.

I wonder why I have never picked up a punter that has said he/she rang us because we had data. :roll: :roll:

Then once the deal is signed, Mr Flash is long gone. Unless a crazy maintenance contract is also signed.

However the boss who signed the contracts is never going to say he has bought a pile of s***. So he sings the praises of the system to everyone that he can. Mr Flash then gets more phone calls from other operators, and the con carries on.


if this is your honest view stick to driving Sussex, you aint cut out to be an operator

mind you I dont think your opperator is either he sounds by your description to have his set up totaly wrong.

what software is it?
Author:  Radioman [ Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:30 am ]
Post subject: 
Yorkie wrote:

if this is your honest view stick to driving Sussex, you aint cut out to be an operator

mind you I dont think your opperator is either he sounds by your description to have his set up totaly wrong.

what software is it?


Yep, why does Yorkie not tell us all what system he is using and all the problems that he is having. We can debate/discuse the issues and maybe he can take them to the company owner.
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:27 pm ]
Post subject: 
Radioman wrote:
Why did you not just label the thread "I HATE DATA DISPATCH SYSTEMS"

You don't have to hate data, to see that it's really a big fat con. :shock:

Despite the nose stretching lies from data salesman :^o a decent operator will clear work far better than a silicon chip.

Speed is not that much of bonus and I'm quite sure customers aren't worried too much about fractions of a second.
Author:  Guest [ Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:24 pm ]
Post subject: 
Sussex wrote:
I wonder why I have never picked up a punter that has said he/she rang us because we had data. :roll: :roll:

Exactly.
Unless you have a 100 plus cars its a complete waste of money.
Our money at that as well. :sad:
Author:  Radioman [ Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:41 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
Radioman wrote:
Why did you not just label the thread "I HATE DATA DISPATCH SYSTEMS"

You don't have to hate data, to see that it's really a big fat con. :shock:

Despite the nose stretching lies from data salesman :^o a decent operator will clear work far better than a silicon chip.

Speed is not that much of bonus and I'm quite sure customers aren't worried too much about fractions of a second.


Hmm...so thats your sole argument against data then Mr Sussex? I would suggest that you dont really have a clue what your talking about and just blowing HOT air. I have asked you to tell us all whats wrong with the system so that people can debate/discuse the issues rather than just YOUR view which is evidently filled with hatred.
Author:  Yorkie [ Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:34 am ]
Post subject: 
Radioman wrote:
Yorkie wrote:

if this is your honest view stick to driving Sussex, you aint cut out to be an operator

mind you I dont think your opperator is either he sounds by your description to have his set up totaly wrong.

what software is it?


Yep, why does Yorkie not tell us all what system he is using and all the problems that he is having. We can debate/discuse the issues and maybe he can take them to the company owner.


Yorkie has told you all what system he is using, and the few problems, merely that radioman never takes notice

and radioman I am the company owner

wake up man.
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