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With the rapid development in the world of computers, and the more common appearance in new cars of GPS systems as a manufacturer fitted standard part or option, is there any future in the Taxi system sellers specifying hardware that is exclusive to the taxi trade?

Even a new Ford Focus now comes with an installed SatNav, and Pioneers AVIC series has virtually its own PC. Shouldn't the taxi system suppliers now be working towards selling systems that just bolt on to what you already have, rather than selling something so specific that it is of use only to the taxi trade therefore relies on such small manufacturing runs as to make it ten times the price it should be?

They can do it with the PDA, why not the manufacturer installed GPS?

Perhaps they already can? Anyone know?

Andy7 wrote:

I suspect by the time your mob get around to buying a system, it will be common place. :roll:

Andy7 wrote:

Hi Andy
Some of the data suppliers are building units which can be loaded with software for varioius types of operation and not specifically for the taxi market place.

As for bolting in to whats in the car, this will mean that the car suppliers will have to come up with an industry standard that everyone can use, this is where problems happen.

What you want Andy you CANT get its as simple as that. Maybe you should consider just sticking to what you have rather than pick holes in everything else.

You would be a nightmare of a customer IMHO

regards
RadioMan

Well, thats a shame. But if they want the money, they will have to provide what the customer wants.

I resent your comment that I pick the holes. The holes are there already. My comments are not destructive, but aimed at being constructive.

If I make in inaccurate statement, then please pull me up on it, as indeed some have in the past.

Yeah Radioman, I can agree with that without problem.

Tell me, which of the current systems on the market has it's accounts package accepted by the VAT office? Now, I would have thought that was required by all operators, not just me. But I could be wrong.

Hi Radioman. Yes I did attend Telford and spent both days tooth-combing the suppliers.

As for export to Sage, thats fine. But most of the packages have already messed up the VAT issue long before then. Export to Sage only really suits gross figures and sales invoices to customers. It cant cope with driver invoicing at all, as they have made up their minds on the drivers long before you export to sage.

Andy7 wrote:

Hi Andy
Well in that case get a supplier who is willing to export the raw data for you and get someone to write a package that suits your needs.

Its the only way that you will get exactly what you want.

The "only" way?

I think not.

Yawn.

W

ell, which one of us is making ourself look like an idiot here?

Author:	Andy7 [ Mon May 30, 2005 10:00 am ]
Post subject:	Future proof software
With the rapid development in the world of computers, and the more common appearance in new cars of GPS systems as a manufacturer fitted standard part or option, is there any future in the Taxi system sellers specifying hardware that is exclusive to the taxi trade? Even a new Ford Focus now comes with an installed SatNav, and Pioneers AVIC series has virtually its own PC. Shouldn't the taxi system suppliers now be working towards selling systems that just bolt on to what you already have, rather than selling something so specific that it is of use only to the taxi trade therefore relies on such small manufacturing runs as to make it ten times the price it should be? They can do it with the PDA, why not the manufacturer installed GPS? Perhaps they already can? Anyone know?

Author:	Sussex [ Mon May 30, 2005 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Future proof software
Andy7 wrote: With the rapid development in the world of computers, and the more common appearance in new cars of GPS systems as a manufacturer fitted standard part or option, is there any future in the Taxi system sellers specifying hardware that is exclusive to the taxi trade? I suspect by the time your mob get around to buying a system, it will be common place.

Author:	Radioman [ Mon May 30, 2005 8:28 pm ]
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Andy7 wrote: With the rapid development in the world of computers, and the more common appearance in new cars of GPS systems as a manufacturer fitted standard part or option, is there any future in the Taxi system sellers specifying hardware that is exclusive to the taxi trade? Even a new Ford Focus now comes with an installed SatNav, and Pioneers AVIC series has virtually its own PC. Shouldn't the taxi system suppliers now be working towards selling systems that just bolt on to what you already have, rather than selling something so specific that it is of use only to the taxi trade therefore relies on such small manufacturing runs as to make it ten times the price it should be? They can do it with the PDA, why not the manufacturer installed GPS? Perhaps they already can? Anyone know? Hi Andy Some of the data suppliers are building units which can be loaded with software for varioius types of operation and not specifically for the taxi market place. As for bolting in to whats in the car, this will mean that the car suppliers will have to come up with an industry standard that everyone can use, this is where problems happen. What you want Andy you CANT get its as simple as that. Maybe you should consider just sticking to what you have rather than pick holes in everything else. You would be a nightmare of a customer IMHO regards RadioMan

Author:	Andy7 [ Tue May 31, 2005 11:55 am ]
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Sussex wrote: Andy7 wrote: With the rapid development in the world of computers, and the more common appearance in new cars of GPS systems as a manufacturer fitted standard part or option, is there any future in the Taxi system sellers specifying hardware that is exclusive to the taxi trade? I suspect by the time your mob get around to buying a system, it will be common place. Ha ha. But a good point nonetheless, even if a bit sarcastic.

Author:	Andy7 [ Tue May 31, 2005 12:00 pm ]
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Radioman wrote: Andy7 wrote: With the rapid development in the world of computers, and the more common appearance in new cars of GPS systems as a manufacturer fitted standard part or option, is there any future in the Taxi system sellers specifying hardware that is exclusive to the taxi trade? Even a new Ford Focus now comes with an installed SatNav, and Pioneers AVIC series has virtually its own PC. Shouldn't the taxi system suppliers now be working towards selling systems that just bolt on to what you already have, rather than selling something so specific that it is of use only to the taxi trade therefore relies on such small manufacturing runs as to make it ten times the price it should be? They can do it with the PDA, why not the manufacturer installed GPS? Perhaps they already can? Anyone know? Hi Andy Some of the data suppliers are building units which can be loaded with software for varioius types of operation and not specifically for the taxi market place. As for bolting in to whats in the car, this will mean that the car suppliers will have to come up with an industry standard that everyone can use, this is where problems happen. What you want Andy you CANT get its as simple as that. Maybe you should consider just sticking to what you have rather than pick holes in everything else. You would be a nightmare of a customer IMHO regards RadioMan Well, thats a shame. But if they want the money, they will have to provide what the customer wants. I resent your comment that I pick the holes. The holes are there already. My comments are not destructive, but aimed at being constructive. If I make in inaccurate statement, then please pull me up on it, as indeed some have in the past.

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Author:	Radioman [ Tue May 31, 2005 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Future proof software
Andy7 wrote: Well, thats a shame. But if they want the money, they will have to provide what the customer wants. I resent your comment that I pick the holes. The holes are there already. My comments are not destructive, but aimed at being constructive. If I make in inaccurate statement, then please pull me up on it, as indeed some have in the past. Hi Andy Note the smile at the end of the posting. Customers all want things but sometimes its not economical to make all the changes to suit all the cutomers. regards

Author:	Andy7 [ Tue May 31, 2005 5:12 pm ]
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Yeah Radioman, I can agree with that without problem. Tell me, which of the current systems on the market has it's accounts package accepted by the VAT office? Now, I would have thought that was required by all operators, not just me. But I could be wrong.

Author:	Radioman [ Tue May 31, 2005 9:15 pm ]
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Andy7 wrote: Yeah Radioman, I can agree with that without problem. Tell me, which of the current systems on the market has it's accounts package accepted by the VAT office? Now, I would have thought that was required by all operators, not just me. But I could be wrong. A lot of systems allow you to export to Sage which is accepted. Did you attend Telford this year and ask the questions of the various companies around?

Author:	Andy7 [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:44 am ]
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Hi Radioman. Yes I did attend Telford and spent both days tooth-combing the suppliers. As for export to Sage, thats fine. But most of the packages have already messed up the VAT issue long before then. Export to Sage only really suits gross figures and sales invoices to customers. It cant cope with driver invoicing at all, as they have made up their minds on the drivers long before you export to sage.

Author:	Radioman [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:16 pm ]
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Andy7 wrote: Hi Radioman. Yes I did attend Telford and spent both days tooth-combing the suppliers. As for export to Sage, thats fine. But most of the packages have already messed up the VAT issue long before then. Export to Sage only really suits gross figures and sales invoices to customers. It cant cope with driver invoicing at all, as they have made up their minds on the drivers long before you export to sage. Hi Andy Well in that case get a supplier who is willing to export the raw data for you and get someone to write a package that suits your needs. Its the only way that you will get exactly what you want.

Author:	Andy7 [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:06 am ]
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Radioman wrote: Andy7 wrote: Hi Radioman. Yes I did attend Telford and spent both days tooth-combing the suppliers. As for export to Sage, thats fine. But most of the packages have already messed up the VAT issue long before then. Export to Sage only really suits gross figures and sales invoices to customers. It cant cope with driver invoicing at all, as they have made up their minds on the drivers long before you export to sage. Hi Andy Well in that case get a supplier who is willing to export the raw data for you and get someone to write a package that suits your needs. Its the only way that you will get exactly what you want. The "only" way? I think not.

Author:	Radioman [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:36 am ]
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Andy7 wrote: The "only" way? I think not. Hi Andy7 YOu have stated that no one does it, so either you make them do it or you do it yourself. Simple enough.

Author:	Andy7 [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:53 pm ]
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Yawn. W ell, which one of us is making ourself look like an idiot here?

Author:	Radioman [ Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:42 am ]
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Andy7 wrote: Yawn. W ell, which one of us is making ourself look like an idiot here? No Andy7, you have come on here telling us all that none of the suppliers of data systems have the correct accounts package that suites your requirements. I have suggested that you use the export to Sage facility that a lot of them have, but you attacked that. I then suggested that you get them to export the raw data and get someone to write your own bepoke admin pacakge, which companies have been known to do, but you attacked that. Both of the above are things that are done, its called ADVICE but you dont want the advice by the sounds of things, your willing to attack the various companies for their systems, I would suggest that if you dont like thier systems then you develope your own or stick to pen and paper. Its as simple as that Andy7.

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Author:	Andy7 [ Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:02 am ]
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Ah right. Thanks for your ADVICE.