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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:56 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:37 pm 
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I could be wrong but I'm sure I once read that the majority of oil is used in plastics, solvents, paint etc. and only a small percentage is actually for petrol/diesel/other fuels.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:27 pm 
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I could be wrong but I'm sure I once read that the majority of oil is used in plastics, solvents, paint etc. and only a small percentage is actually for petrol/diesel/other fuels.

I think it is about 75% is refined into the various fuels and the rest is used for everything else.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:02 pm 
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It's not an Oil crash that'll be the problem it'll be a lack of cleanly generated electricity that'll thwart the Electric cars progress...they can have every car on the planet replaced with a leccy car, they can lay on a Millions of electric charging points all over the shop, but it'll count for nowt unless leccy supply keeps up with demand and I can't see how you can achieve that In Britain with it's unpredictable weather.

Not enough sun for Solar, a matter made worse by the Short Winter days when the extra demand made on a leccy cars electrics is higher than in summer.
Not enough Wind generated Leccy without covering Britain from top to toe in Wind Turbines that only work if it's windy but not too windy or not at all if its not windy.
The greens don't want leccy from fossil fuel based generation and they don't want it from Nuclear either.

Which kind of Brings us back to where we are now...Oil Burners.

You can't have it all ways or you'll end up with no way.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:56 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
It's not an Oil crash that'll be the problem it'll be a lack of cleanly generated electricity that'll thwart the Electric cars progress...they can have every car on the planet replaced with a leccy car, they can lay on a Millions of electric charging points all over the shop, but it'll count for nowt unless leccy supply keeps up with demand and I can't see how you can achieve that In Britain with it's unpredictable weather.

Not enough sun for Solar, a matter made worse by the Short Winter days when the extra demand made on a leccy cars electrics is higher than in summer.
Not enough Wind generated Leccy without covering Britain from top to toe in Wind Turbines that only work if it's windy but not too windy or not at all if its not windy.
The greens don't want leccy from fossil fuel based generation and they don't want it from Nuclear either.

Which kind of Brings us back to where we are now...Oil Burners.

You can't have it all ways or you'll end up with no way.




I have Solar panels on the roof of my house, They pay for all my lecky and gas bills for the year and a bit over.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:02 am 
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sasha wrote:
I could be wrong but I'm sure I once read that the majority of oil is used in plastics, solvents, paint etc. and only a small percentage is actually for petrol/diesel/other fuels.


Petrol and Diesel account for only a small amount of profits due to the above.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:06 am 
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bloodnock wrote:
It's not an Oil crash that'll be the problem it'll be a lack of cleanly generated electricity that'll thwart the Electric cars progress...they can have every car on the planet replaced with a leccy car, they can lay on a Millions of electric charging points all over the shop, but it'll count for nowt unless leccy supply keeps up with demand and I can't see how you can achieve that In Britain with it's unpredictable weather.

Not enough sun for Solar, a matter made worse by the Short Winter days when the extra demand made on a leccy cars electrics is higher than in summer.
Not enough Wind generated Leccy without covering Britain from top to toe in Wind Turbines that only work if it's windy but not too windy or not at all if its not windy.
The greens don't want leccy from fossil fuel based generation and they don't want it from Nuclear either.

Which kind of Brings us back to where we are now...Oil Burners.

You can't have it all ways or you'll end up with no way.



One Nuclear power station can make more power than 30,000 wind turbines.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:52 pm 
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MR T wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
It's not an Oil crash that'll be the problem it'll be a lack of cleanly generated electricity that'll thwart the Electric cars progress...they can have every car on the planet replaced with a leccy car, they can lay on a Millions of electric charging points all over the shop, but it'll count for nowt unless leccy supply keeps up with demand and I can't see how you can achieve that In Britain with it's unpredictable weather.

Not enough sun for Solar, a matter made worse by the Short Winter days when the extra demand made on a leccy cars electrics is higher than in summer.
Not enough Wind generated Leccy without covering Britain from top to toe in Wind Turbines that only work if it's windy but not too windy or not at all if its not windy.
The greens don't want leccy from fossil fuel based generation and they don't want it from Nuclear either.

Which kind of Brings us back to where we are now...Oil Burners.

You can't have it all ways or you'll end up with no way.




I have Solar panels on the roof of my house, They pay for all my lecky and gas bills for the year and a bit over.


How many have you got and how much did they cost in total..maybe they Don't pay just as much as you think over their finite lifespan.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:17 pm 
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How many have you got and how much did they cost in total..maybe they Don't pay just as much as you think over their finite lifespan.



Short answer....cost 5k.....how many....14 pans......generate 4kw.....cash back to me £1000 ish per year.... yearly lecky bill about £400 .......paid for in 6 years....then 14 years free....use lot's more lecky now then before....don't need Sun....... just light...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:16 pm 
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MR T wrote:
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How many have you got and how much did they cost in total..maybe they Don't pay just as much as you think over their finite lifespan.



Short answer....cost 5k.....how many....14 pans......generate 4kw.....cash back to me £1000 ish .... yearly lecky bill about about £400 .......paid for in 6 years....then 14 years free....use lot's more lecky now then before....don't need Sun....... just light...


I don't know how true it is but I have heard it can be difficult to arrange a mortgage on a property with solar panels fitted.


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x-ray wrote:
MR T wrote:
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How many have you got and how much did they cost in total..maybe they Don't pay just as much as you think over their finite lifespan.



Short answer....cost 5k.....how many....14 pans......generate 4kw.....cash back to me £1000 ish .... yearly lecky bill about about £400 .......paid for in 6 years....then 14 years free....use lot's more lecky now then before....don't need Sun....... just light...


I don't know how true it is but I have heard it can be difficult to arrange a mortgage on a property with solar panels fitted.

If you have paid cash for them you are o k.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:16 pm 
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MR T wrote:
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I don't know how true it is but I have heard it can be difficult to arrange a mortgage on a property with solar panels fitted.

If you have paid cash for them you are o k.

My ex wife has just sold her house with solar panels on to people needing a mortgage without any problem.

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grandad wrote:
MR T wrote:
x-ray wrote:

I don't know how true it is but I have heard it can be difficult to arrange a mortgage on a property with solar panels fitted.

If you have paid cash for them you are o k.

My ex wife has just sold her house with solar panels on to people needing a mortgage without any problem.

It's nice to know that you two are still friends.. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:44 pm 
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We have been building leccy cars for decades..

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:48 am 
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MR T wrote:
grandad wrote:
My ex wife has just sold her house with solar panels on to people needing a mortgage without any problem.

It's nice to know that you two are still friends.. :D

She works for us as well.

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grandad wrote:
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grandad wrote:
My ex wife has just sold her house with solar panels on to people needing a mortgage without any problem.

It's nice to know that you two are still friends.. :D

She works for us as well.

Booking holidays for 3 must be awkward..

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MR T wrote:
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MR T wrote:
It's nice to know that you two are still friends.. :D

She works for us as well.

Booking holidays for 3 must be awkward..

Now, you don't know how close you are. The last 2 summers the ex wife and the current wife have gone on holiday together.
We have an apartment in Spain and my current wife has been making the arrangement for the ex wife and her family to stay in the same apartment block. However I don't go on holiday at the same time otherwise there would be no one here to run the business.
I must point out that I have been married to the current wife for 19 years come June and I was only married to the ex for 18 years. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:06 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
We have been building leccy cars for decades..
The worlds first car was electric.
The first car to travel faster than 100mph was electric.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:44 am 
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I must point out that I have been married to the current wife for 19 years come June and I was only married to the ex for 18 years. :mrgreen:



Ex-7 years

Current (and i remind her daily the position is constantly under review) 29 years

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