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can never find one when i want one, no-one parts with them

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Then buy a petrol car and pay for the conversion. Vauxhall used to supply new cars with LPG already installed.

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Grandad,

I think only Proton do LPG now but...im tempted to buy a petrol car just to try one these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Reduce-fuel-c ... SwQM9UY-np

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I wish

just filled up

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i have done 350miles yesterday and today.. mixture of roads... have not stopped all day picking up jobs from different zones.. just below
half a tank for them 350 miles.. so cost wise today i done 198miles.. which prob cost me £10 of fuel
if i had done 350 miles in my pug hdi 1.6 wav i would be heading for fuel up by now.. i rekon i was getting 45mpg avg on the that...

The tech on these on monitoring your mpg Ev and stuff is pretty good loads of info..

if you look on http://www.fuelly.com these are real world MPG ... people track there MPG

the prius 2016(uk) is coming up at 65mpg avg so they ent far off
the Skoda Octavia 2016 is avg 45mpg

I use http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/


my Skoda superb 1.6 gets me 57mpg overall (65mpg on a decent run) for the OTR price (new) £13K+vat

my last car averaged 40mpg (from a £4k car)

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So if you ONLY used the hybrid for town/local work how long would it run before it had to start the petrol engine to charge the battery?

the 70+ mpg figures, they include ALL mileages? whats it do when the petrol engine runs, which i assume it must do at 70mph on a long run....

the average mpg (inc leccy runs) on spirit monitor is 68mpg

and are the batteries on a separate lease? whats the replacement cost for the battery pack?

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It doesn't work like that. The petrol engine sometimes runs the car and sometimes charges the battery. The battery is also charged when the car goes downhill or when the brakes are used. It is far to clever for me to understand how it works but the car does show some interesting graphs and schematics to let you know what it is doing and when. The battery is not on a lease and I don't know the cost of a replacement.

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im hoping you will come back with a 20,000 mile fuel used/mpg figure as ive seen too much flannel for hybrids, like the Mitsubishi PHEV claiming 140mpg....

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The Auris/Prius are electrically assisted petrol vehicles, not electric vehicles (except the fully electric prius).
They are basically the same but with differences, the Prius goes further on battery and is more efficient overall than the Auris.
On the Auris a full battery will give you around 3/4mile at 40mph on level ground if it's a straight run with no stop/starts. BUT, the engine only kicks in when there's not enough charge in the battery or extra power is needed (pulling away from standstill or going up a hill) and any time the foot is taken off the accelerator or the brakes are used it uses regeneration to top up the battery, I can drive 10 miles round town and the only time the engine runs is when pulling away, all the charging is done through regeneration.

There are two sets of average mpgs, one shows the current mpg which is constantly changing depending on engine load and the other is the overall mpg from when the counter was reset - so reset every day and you get that days mpg, don't reset for a week and it averages for that week.

Any speed above 42mph (Auris) and the engine runs continuously whilst your foots on the accelerator, take your foot off the pedal and the petrols shut off. This means around 56mpg at 70 on the motorway, but if you drop to 60mph it goes up to 75mpg.

If you had to replace the entire battery pack it costs around £800 - but the batteries are covered by the initial 5 year/100k warranty and then with an annual check (£25) for up to 12 years. BUT, the batteries now consist of seperate cells which can be replaced for £30 each should they fail. The battery packs are designed for the life of the vehicle and failures are rare.

The expensive parts on a hybrid are ;
Complete battery £800 (lifetime part, rarely fail, individual cells replaced for £30)
Inverter £600 (lifetime part, very rare to fail.)
Transaxle (gearbox/transmission) £1500 (lifetime part, only about 3 known failures)
Electric motors £500 (lifetime part, NO failures since original Prius)

Compare this to the Mondeo that needed a new clutch/flywheel every 18 months and cost £600 and it stacks up well.

Can't give you a fuel used figure but I've had the Auris for just over a year and done about 20k - average 64mpg, 90% round town hardly ever on a road with a limit above 30mph.

Compare fuel cost between my previous Mondeo TDCi and the new car ;
2014-2015 Mondeo = £4,600 DIESEL (38mpg)
2015-2016 Auris = £2,700 PETROL (64mpg)

It's not an accurate comparison as mileages etc are'nt exactly the same, but they're going to be roughly the same as my hours and days haven't changed nor the job count.

Except any corner garage can fix a Mondeo (which is a full 5 seater) whereas these hybrids will be dealer only for ever and a day

hybrids wont change the world, we need either 100% leccy cars via long range battery only power, or onboard fuel cell production of leccy but while the big car producers sink billions into IC engine production and oil production hangs in there no progress will be forthcoming

Tesla is the one exception so far with a 250 mile range and no IC engine

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how did you manage to only get 38mpg from a Tdci Mondeo?

mine did 50mpg

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Now you know that's just not true
Any garage can work on a hybrid, the mechs just have to do a short course to familiarize themselves with the differences, mainly in isolating the electrical side. Plus the hybrid side is very,very,very reliable, a battery and two motors - what's to go wrong ?.

T'was the norm round here, everyone got the same. All stop/start town driving, hardly ever out of a 30 zone, average speed each night was 12mph !