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 Post subject: Citroen views
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:16 pm 
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Got a chance of buying a Citroen C5 1.6HDi VTR+, any thoughts ?
Looks a decent enough motor, well specced and cheap - the owner reviews I've read mostly praise the car with only a few having any problems.
But what's it like as a cab, anyone got one or knows someone who has one, should I buy or avoid ?


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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:18 am 
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sasha wrote:
Got a chance of buying a Citroen C5 1.6HDi VTR+, any thoughts ?
Looks a decent enough motor, well specced and cheap - the owner reviews I've read mostly praise the car with only a few having any problems.
But what's it like as a cab, anyone got one or knows someone who has one, should I buy or avoid ?

A chap in my town runs one................occasionally, when it isn't off the road. It could be the car or it could be the lack of maintenance.

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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:02 pm 
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sasha wrote:
Got a chance of buying a Citroen C5 1.6HDi VTR+, any thoughts ?
Looks a decent enough motor, well specced and cheap - the owner reviews I've read mostly praise the car with only a few having any problems.
But what's it like as a cab, anyone got one or knows someone who has one, should I buy or avoid ?


I used to have a C5 as my own personal car. I'd have another one tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:17 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
sasha wrote:
Got a chance of buying a Citroen C5 1.6HDi VTR+, any thoughts ?
Looks a decent enough motor, well specced and cheap - the owner reviews I've read mostly praise the car with only a few having any problems.
But what's it like as a cab, anyone got one or knows someone who has one, should I buy or avoid ?


I used to have a C5 as my own personal car. I'd have another one tomorrow.

I know where there is one going cheap Nidge, see my post above. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:19 pm 
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I've owned a couple of Citroens and had no major problems with them, I actually think you get a lot of car for the money.
But they were used as a private cars, I'm wanting to know how they stack up for PH use - comfort, reliability, economy, practicallity, performance, wear and tear - all the usual stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:25 pm 
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I had a Citroen from brand new, never again..... poor build, no parts backup, lack of customer service

then again the Mk4 Mondeos use the PSA engines....

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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:35 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
I had a Citroen from brand new, never again..... poor build, no parts backup, lack of customer service

then again the Mk4 Mondeos use the PSA engines....



They're good for 400,000 if they're looked after.


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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:47 pm 
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I know they can suffer premature turbo failure if the oil changes haven't been carried out religiously ( and the correct oil used) or the oil level has been allowed to run low. Seems to affect the 1.6 Hdi more than the 2.0 Hdi. I think possibly because it has to work harder being a smaller engine.


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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:15 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
then again the Mk4 Mondeos use the PSA engines....

Are you saying Citroens have the same engine as the Mondeo ?
If so then (engine wise) the reliability should be about the same, and cost of parts/availability about equal.

One of my worries was the availability of Citroen parts, last time I owned one it was pointless going to a parts place so I just got them all online. At least with the mondeo you can get them anywhere cheaply.


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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:16 pm 
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The basic engine block is the same PSA (peugeot/Citroen ) unit. Different company's use different head designs, pipework etc.
These include ; Ford, Jaguar, Landrover/Range Rover, Fiat, Mazda, Volvo and many others I'm sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
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x-ray wrote:
The basic engine block is the same PSA (peugeot/Citroen ) unit. Different company's use different head designs, pipework etc.
These include ; Ford, Jaguar, Landrover/Range Rover, Fiat, Mazda, Volvo and many others I'm sure.



the pipes maybe, but the main bulk of it i doubt, just drop in a whole assembly

the 1.8 tdci mondeo MIGHT be the old Endura engine though

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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:53 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
I had a Citroen from brand new, never again..... poor build, no parts backup, lack of customer service

then again the Mk4 Mondeos use the PSA engines....


Aren't they built by Peugeot?


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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:29 pm 
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x-ray wrote:
The basic engine block is the same PSA (peugeot/Citroen ) unit. Different company's use different head designs, pipework etc.
These include ; Ford, Jaguar, Landrover/Range Rover, Fiat, Mazda, Volvo and many others I'm sure.

So a lot of engine parts should be interchangeable between Citroen/Ford ?
Most of the C5 failings I'm reading about are either electric windows or the particulate filter.


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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:38 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
I had a Citroen from brand new, never again..... poor build, no parts backup, lack of customer service

then again the Mk4 Mondeos use the PSA engines....


Aren't they built by Peugeot?


Thats 1/3rd of PSA but basically you never know who build what now

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 Post subject: Re: Citroen views
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Do Citroens use the cassette belts system that Mondeos have ? This is what's put me off another Mondeo, too many failing under 80,000m. And at £300-£500 to change I was hoping to avoid.


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