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Changing TX2 engine to a nissan engine
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Author:  Lemmo [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Changing TX2 engine to a nissan engine
Its been said a Nissan Navara engine will fit into a TX2. Has anyone done this and if so what other things needs changing to suit...electrics etc?
Author:  devilhunter [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:06 pm ]
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I doubt any local authority would licence such a major modification on the vehicle and I hate to think how much the insurance would go up by not to mention making it almost unsaleable in the bargain.

If I was you I would get the 5 grand it would cost and throw it over your shoulder as its an easier way to lose the cash.
I cant understand why people dont like the TX2. For me they are no worse than TX1's if they are maintained correctly.
Author:  skippy41 [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:21 pm ]
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Its a fairly strait forward swap, you may need the manifold and some of the wiring, you could get all the bits from a scraped TX1 or fairway
Your insurance should not be affected either as cabs with the Nissan are still being insured but check with them first
The same engine was used in the Patrol as well but check the water ports on the side of the engine before you fit one as they have been known to blow out

The quickest way to get one in, is to find a scraped TX1 or fairway get the engine out and the gear box get them serviced and checked out, then drop it in
Author:  devilhunter [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:35 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote:
Your insurance should not be affected either as cabs with the Nissan are still being insured but check with them first


I can assure you that your insurance WILL be affected big time. I can tell you now that any modification that is not factory approved will load the insurance by around 25% for a normal car but to modify a vehicle that is used for hire and reward ? - it will most likely not be insurable.

As for your passengers - would they be happy travelling in a vehicle that has been modified by a bloke on his driveway - this is a non starter I am afraid.
Author:  captain cab [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:38 pm ]
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devilhunter wrote:

I can assure you that your insurance WILL be affected big time. I can tell you now that any modification that is not factory approved will load the insurance by around 25% for a normal car but to modify a vehicle that is used for hire and reward ? - it will most likely not be insurable.

As for your passengers - would they be happy travelling in a vehicle that has been modified by a bloke on his driveway - this is a non starter I am afraid.


You're dealing with skippy......never let facts get in the way of boundless imagination :wink:

CC
Author:  skippy41 [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:43 pm ]
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To infinity and beyond :lol: :lol:

But with CC there is life, but not as we know it :D
Author:  Darren63 [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:50 pm ]
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devilhunter wrote:
I doubt any local authority would licence such a major modification


Don't be daft! why wouldn't they?

Down here a few years back alot of swapping was going on, converting 2.2 FX4R's to petrol, converting Metro's to Nissan engines, no one as far as I'm aware was ever refused to be re-plated.
Author:  devilhunter [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:50 pm ]
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I would love to see the taxi licensing officers face down here in Maidstone when I go and try to get it through the compliance test.

There is more chance of finding a 3 legged ballerina than getting anything like a re-engined TX 2 being allowed to work down here.

Skippy are you seriously saying its a viable option :lol:
Author:  MR T [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:56 pm ]
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If you replace the TX two engine with 27 Nissan and notify the DVLC your new log book will give you're vehicle as being aTX 2.7 Nissan.
Author:  devilhunter [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:08 pm ]
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MR T wrote:
If you replace the TX two engine with 27 Nissan and notify the DVLC your new log book will give you're vehicle as being aTX 2.7 Nissan.


Rubbish. Absolute rubbish. You cannot change the name of a vehicle once its been made. All my other point are still valid anyway.

I have carried out several engine conversion on cars in the past such as Rover V8 into Ford Capri and Ford Escort and 3 Rover V8 into Triumph TR7 conversions which makes it similar to a factory TR8 and I can assure you the name on the log book DOES NOT CHANGE. Only the new engine size and number is recorded.

Its still a non factory conversion that would make the cab worthless and uninsurable not to mention un-licensable.

For a laugh I will give both my council and my fleet insurer a ring tomorrow to confirm what I already know.

Then I may go out and and put a Ferrari engine in a Mondeo so the log book says 'Ford Mondeo Ferrari'.

You could not make it up :lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  Darren63 [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:12 pm ]
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devilhunter wrote:
MR T wrote:
If you replace the TX two engine with 27 Nissan and notify the DVLC your new log book will give you're vehicle as being aTX 2.7 Nissan.




Its still a non factory conversion that would make the cab worthless and uninsurable not to mention un-licensable.



You not read my post above then???

Cabs have been and probably will be licensed in the future with non standard engines.

Don't base your comments on your area and expect them to be the same countrywide.
Author:  devilhunter [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:25 pm ]
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You said it in your original statement - 'a few years back'.

Now with emission laws getting tighter almost by the week, you seem to think that replacing a clean engine with a dirty old oil burner will be allowed and indeed encouraged ????????
That should be funny come compliance time when you try to convince the tester that the TX2 co2 figures dont apply to your taxi because you have an older engine in it. lol
These are not local laws but an act of parliament which applies nationally to all areas of the UK.

Like I say - put you money where your mouth and convert a TX2 then start a new thread explaining how you got around all the numerous obstacles that will undoubtedly come your way.

Then I will put my hand up and say I was wrong.
Looking forward to it.
Author:  Darren63 [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:31 pm ]
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devilhunter wrote:
You said it in your original statement - 'a few years back'.

Now with emission laws getting tighter almost by the week, you seem to think that replacing a clean engine with a dirty old oil burner will be allowed and indeed encouraged ????????
That should be funny come compliance time when you try to convince the tester that the TX2 co2 figures dont apply to your taxi because you have an older engine in it. lol
These are not local laws but an act of parliament which applies nationally to all areas of the UK.

Like I say - put you money where your mouth and convert a TX2 then start a new thread explaining how you got around all the numerous obstacles that will undoubtedly come your way.

Then I will put my hand up and say I was wrong.
Looking forward to it.


I don't think the OP mentioned anything about an older engine and I'm sure I didn't. :?
Author:  Lemmo [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:38 pm ]
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Its just a query for a mate of mine.
My TX2 has the upgrade chain fitted and runs fine and very quiet. But others with them are thinking of other options.

A metrocab fitted with a Galaxy petrol engine converted to LPG are plated... is that not a conversion?
Author:  devilhunter [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:38 pm ]
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Yes but the 2.7 Nissan lump was just the dirtiest diesel you could get. Smoke every where. For all its failings (and I have yet to have an engine failure of any kind and I have 3 TX2's over 100k mark) the Ford lump is much much cleaner.
The 2.7 Nissan engine simply cannot be made to run anywhere near as clean as the Ford lump.
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