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| Author: | iconic [ Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & seal? |
Hi guys, there were a few companies doing the steam and seal for London cabs....I think the place at Wandsworth has shutdown, I've heard there maybe a place in Stanstead? any info very welcome. PS close to South Norfolk would be helpful  PPS..could another days on my back with black Waxoyl 
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
old engine oil works too |
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| Author: | gary [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
I use waxoyl. I think it is better than underseal because it remains soft. Underseal goes rock hard and quite often, water can get behind it and just starts rotting the steel. The black waxoyl is best underneath. It will make the car smell of boot polish for a couple of weeks but it is very good. I also use it in all the door cavities and all around the inner rear wheel arch, boot floor and boot flange where the rubber seal attaches. |
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| Author: | Baconsdozen [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
I use the Eureka fluid film,but in truth you'll only ever slow rust down you'll never stop it. |
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| Author: | blackpool [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
Bring back Red Lead paint,best stuff ive used 
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| Author: | gary [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
Of course, along with protective paints, the best thing you can do with any traditional car like the FX4 is to keep it in a garage when not in use. Easier said than done sometimes... |
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| Author: | iconic [ Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
cheers guys black waxoyl then I think, the biggest problem for me is the smell of the stuff, brings back memories of weekends spent waxoyling Ford Corsairs and MGB's on my back! |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
Would not bother under sealing, you have to let the water out somehow  
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| Author: | E7fan [ Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
May as well creosote the floorboards too while you're at it
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| Author: | R185SLH [ Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
I fully endorse the comments about Waxoyl, but DON'T use old engine oil - it is carcinogenic, and can cause skin cancer. It's well worth wearing disposable rubber rubber gloves when changing engine oil. |
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| Author: | Baconsdozen [ Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
Old engine oil also contains water and acids in suspension,all byproducts of combustion. |
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| Author: | iconic [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
a bit more info on used engine oil, just in cae you spill some on your hand and get real panicky...I don't know too much about Fairways, but... Of course it's good practice avoid used engine oil in the first place, it's common sense. I always use nitrile gloves when handling it and my back ground is automotive combustion R&D for OEM's and oil companies.... any mineral oil (and synt') or anything that contains PAH, poly aromatic hydrocarbons...nasties! Now, used engine oil is higher in PAH but is actually on the minimal side of low on the risk scale...lower than say plastics in dashboards, coal tar soap, burnt toast, (burnt grilled anything!), burning coal, steroids, burning wood, BBQ's, incense sticks, tobacco (high!), quite a few edible oils....and road tar, don't lick it! Long-term continuous exposure (which is 365 days or longer doused in it) on the shaved skin of lab' mice, to used mineral-based oil, caused skin cancers in a minority of the sample mice. Oils (used and unused) contain PAHs, not debatable, so this isn't really a surprise, PAHs have been identified as cancer-causing agents for years. Also, as expected, these same tests showed that the higher the PAH content in oil, the more likely for the oil to be carcinogenic to the mice. This oil was from a gasoline fuelled engine, you could expect the diesel oil to be over 20 times lower in PAH's. This type of research comes out of the US as it's well funded uni' stuff, but to be clear the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS for short....our department of health), and the International Agency for Research on Cancer, and the EPA have NOT classified used mineral-based crankcase oil as cancer causing, its more the 'possible risk', as shown in the mice to be pedantic. The oil companies etc are playing very safe in issuing safe useage data, regarding contact and disposal of it, just in case...think litigation. ....to date, to the best of my knowledge, there have been no recorded cases of any human coming into contact with engine oil contracting cancer thru it....and theres a lot of old school mechanics out there. ....but as always with any liquid that isn't water best to play safe...bit like cleaning my hands after splilling coffee on the them...I'll save that for another day! |
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| Author: | iconic [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
E7fan wrote: May as well creosote the floorboards too while you're at it
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| Author: | Baconsdozen [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
Many moons ago the firm I was working for hired a chemist to sort out a corrosion problem in the factory.A proper boffin,nutty as a fruitcake with letters after his name and talking in riddles,called everyone "Dear boy.". He had an absolutely immaculate old car (an early morris I think,can't really remember). He told me that he used old oil (from machinery) mixed with a soap to make it sticky and painted the underneath with it twice a year.The underneath and bodywork was just about perfect. |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: undersealing...any companies still doing the steam & sea |
We used kerosene in the army painted, and forced on with pump up jet bottles, result spotless vehicles |
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