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Hi

would love to know if anyone is running their TX1/TX2 or TX4 on biodeisel.

have heard a lot of stories and wanted to speak to any owner drivers who have used or are currently using biodeisel in a TX

cheers

sorry whats SVO and WVO?

My old TX1 struggles on normal diesel ,I'd hate to think what it would feel like on old chippy fat!

Cheersdrive wrote:

My old TX1 struggles on normal diesel ,I'd hate to think what it would feel like on old chippy fat!

It's actually the opposite.

If you buy from a company that recycle the waste vegetable oil, they filter it and add other chemicals to make biodiesel. It actually cleans your engine.

I had an injector problem when i use to accelerate which has dissappeared since i used bio diesel. My engine runs a lot smoother and theres a lot less smoke out the exhaust.

Apparently TX1's love biodiesel and don't have same problem as TX2 with fuel pump seals.

If you gonna try it thou remember to change the fuel filter after a 1000 miles as the biodiesel dissolves all the leftover diesel gunk at the bottom of your fuel tank and can clog fuel filter and injectors if you leave it.

Also might wanna go 80/20 diesel /bio or even 100% diesel in the cold winter months as cold temp can clog the biodiesel apparently

I can understand the desire to save money but im paying £1.31 for branded diesel and Tesco's SVO (cooking) is £1/£1.20 a litre, i have a Bookers card and catering cans (25ltrs) are sometimes on offer, as we all end up with Hdi/Tdci (common rail) engines with high pressure injectors is it really worth the possible damage with injectors costing £250 EACH and an injector pump costing £1500 and up PLUS the days spent off the road losing money?

if i ran a smiley transit camper van with the 2.5di banana engine......maybe (but even then, maybe not)

come the colder weather and you have to use a 50/50 mix the potential savings fade away

wannabeeahack wrote:

It's a personal choice..But if you make it yourself..it could cost 90p a litre....and will pass any emissione test..

You wont get any paperwork for the 90p a ltr

Author:	SherbetDabby [ Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Is anyone Running a TX2 on Biodiesel?
Hi would love to know if anyone is running their TX1/TX2 or TX4 on biodeisel. have heard a lot of stories and wanted to speak to any owner drivers who have used or are currently using biodeisel in a TX cheers

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:49 pm ]
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SherbetDabby wrote: Hi would love to know if anyone is running their TX1/TX2 or TX4 on biodeisel. have heard a lot of stories and wanted to speak to any owner drivers who have used or are currently using biodeisel in a TX cheers which engine exactly? the newest (TDci/Hdi/Common rail) engines dont like it without a LOT of work The old 2.5di transit "banana" was ok (summer 80% bio, winter 20%) are you meaning SVO or WVO?

Author:	SherbetDabby [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:29 am ]
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I have TX2, which all have Ford Durtorq 2.4 TDi engine's i've done about 3000 miles using biodeisel and haven't had any problems. Used to get smoke from exhaust when occasionally pulling away or putting my foot down but now get very little. I've heard from garages that the biodeisel ends up destroying the seals to the pump which can end up costing a grand and half to fix. Wondered if anyone has experienced this and if so had a few questions also interested in any other problems using biodeisel cheers

Author:	SherbetDabby [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:37 am ]
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sorry whats SVO and WVO?

Author:	grandad [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:58 am ]
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SherbetDabby wrote: sorry whats SVO and WVO? Straight vegetable oil and waste vegetable oil. i used to use rape seed oil in my 55 plate Ford Galaxy without any problem.

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Author:	wannabeeahack [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:45 pm ]
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SherbetDabby wrote: sorry whats SVO and WVO? WVO is reclaimed (chip shop) oil SVO is new from Tescos/ASDA, was illegal to use but i think HMRC relaxed the rules You used to be able to use 2500ltrs of WVO a year legally

Author:	Cheersdrive [ Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:32 pm ]
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My old TX1 struggles on normal diesel ,I'd hate to think what it would feel like on old chippy fat!

Author:	SherbetDabby [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:25 pm ]
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Cheersdrive wrote: My old TX1 struggles on normal diesel ,I'd hate to think what it would feel like on old chippy fat! It's actually the opposite. If you buy from a company that recycle the waste vegetable oil, they filter it and add other chemicals to make biodiesel. It actually cleans your engine. I had an injector problem when i use to accelerate which has dissappeared since i used bio diesel. My engine runs a lot smoother and theres a lot less smoke out the exhaust. Apparently TX1's love biodiesel and don't have same problem as TX2 with fuel pump seals. If you gonna try it thou remember to change the fuel filter after a 1000 miles as the biodiesel dissolves all the leftover diesel gunk at the bottom of your fuel tank and can clog fuel filter and injectors if you leave it. Also might wanna go 80/20 diesel /bio or even 100% diesel in the cold winter months as cold temp can clog the biodiesel apparently

Author:	MR T [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:45 pm ]
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SherbetDabby wrote: Cheersdrive wrote: My old TX1 struggles on normal diesel ,I'd hate to think what it would feel like on old chippy fat! It's actually the opposite. If you buy from a company that recycle the waste vegetable oil, they filter it and add other chemicals to make biodiesel. It actually cleans your engine. I had an injector problem when i use to accelerate which has dissappeared since i used bio diesel. My engine runs a lot smoother and theres a lot less smoke out the exhaust. Apparently TX1's love biodiesel and don't have same problem as TX2 with fuel pump seals. If you gonna try it thou remember to change the fuel filter after a 1000 miles as the biodiesel dissolves all the leftover diesel gunk at the bottom of your fuel tank and can clog fuel filter and injectors if you leave it. Also might wanna go 80/20 diesel /bio or even 100% diesel in the cold winter months as cold temp can clog the biodiesel apparently It dose not matter what engine you have.The main problem that will happen is blocked up fuel filters ...estecially when the weather turns colder..You can make a heatinterchanger so that the fuel is hot ..runs better and keeps the filters clean for longer.

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:04 pm ]
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I can understand the desire to save money but im paying £1.31 for branded diesel and Tesco's SVO (cooking) is £1/£1.20 a litre, i have a Bookers card and catering cans (25ltrs) are sometimes on offer, as we all end up with Hdi/Tdci (common rail) engines with high pressure injectors is it really worth the possible damage with injectors costing £250 EACH and an injector pump costing £1500 and up PLUS the days spent off the road losing money? if i ran a smiley transit camper van with the 2.5di banana engine......maybe (but even then, maybe not) come the colder weather and you have to use a 50/50 mix the potential savings fade away

Author:	MR T [ Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:17 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote: I can understand the desire to save money but im paying £1.31 for branded diesel and Tesco's SVO (cooking) is £1/£1.20 a litre, i have a Bookers card and catering cans (25ltrs) are sometimes on offer, as we all end up with Hdi/Tdci (common rail) engines with high pressure injectors is it really worth the possible damage with injectors costing £250 EACH and an injector pump costing £1500 and up PLUS the days spent off the road losing money? if i ran a smiley transit camper van with the 2.5di banana engine......maybe (but even then, maybe not) come the colder weather and you have to use a 50/50 mix the potential savings fade away It's a personal choice..But if you make it yourself..it could cost 90p a litre....and will pass any emissione test..

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:02 pm ]
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MR T wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: I can understand the desire to save money but im paying £1.31 for branded diesel and Tesco's SVO (cooking) is £1/£1.20 a litre, i have a Bookers card and catering cans (25ltrs) are sometimes on offer, as we all end up with Hdi/Tdci (common rail) engines with high pressure injectors is it really worth the possible damage with injectors costing £250 EACH and an injector pump costing £1500 and up PLUS the days spent off the road losing money? if i ran a smiley transit camper van with the 2.5di banana engine......maybe (but even then, maybe not) come the colder weather and you have to use a 50/50 mix the potential savings fade away It's a personal choice..But if you make it yourself..it could cost 90p a litre....and will pass any emissione test.. You wont get any paperwork for the 90p a ltr so while you may save a little (unless the pump goes tits up) the taxman will want to know how you ran without buying fuel, then they dig deeper and find all sorts, and there used to be a 2500ltrs/year limit before you had to pay road fuel duty on the WVO

Author:	blackpool [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:39 pm ]
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Why go to all this trouble when "red diesel is readily available"

Author:	MR T [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:54 pm ]
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Quote: You wont get any paperwork for the 90p a ltr Why not

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:03 pm ]
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4.1 When is excise duty chargeable? Excise duty is due on the setting aside (see paragraph 4.2 below) or use of biofuels for a 'chargeable use'. 'Chargeable use' means the use of that substance either: (a) as a fuel for any engine, motor or other machinery (b) as an additive or extender in any substance used as fuel for any motor, engine or other machinery (c) for the production of bioblend or bioethanol blend Excise duty is not chargeable if you set aside or use biofuel: as a heating fuel for any other non-motor fuel use See section 5 regarding the mixing of biodiesel and bioblend with rebated heavy oil. Biofuel producers (and motor and heating fuel users in general) are required to register (make entry of) their production premises with HMRC if they produce 2,500 litres or more a year. This includes producers of 100% heating fuel.

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