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I think it is safe to say that call diversion from a private hire registered office to a mobile phone belonging to a licensed London private hire operator come driver is illegal for the purpose of providing provision for the booking of a private hire vehicle.

Needless to say this meeting of minds mob want all hackney carriage drivers to wear the same straight jacket as London and provincial Private hire drivers, where none of us will be able to accept mobile bookings or taxi call bookings. Ask Mr T, I'm sure he will explain the reality of the meeting of minds proposals but don't count on it because I don't believe he has a clue what they mean?

Regards

JD

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A brief Introductory of what constitutes private hire in London.
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1 Meaning of “private hire vehicle”, “operator” and related expressions

(1) In this Act—

(a) “private hire vehicle” means a vehicle constructed or adapted to seat fewer than nine passengers which is made available with a driver . . . for hire for the purpose of carrying passengers, other than a licensed taxi or a public service vehicle; and

(b) “operator” means a person who makes provision for the invitation or acceptance of, or who accepts, private hire bookings.

(2) Any reference in this Act to a vehicle being “used as a private hire vehicle” is a reference to a private hire vehicle which—

(a) is in use in connection with a hiring for the purpose of carrying one or more passengers; or

(b) is immediately available to an operator to carry out a private hire booking.

(3) Any reference in this Act to the operator of a vehicle which is being used as a private hire vehicle is a reference to the operator who accepted the booking for the hiring or to whom the vehicle is immediately available, as the case may be.

(4) In this Act “private hire booking” means a booking for the hire of a private hire vehicle for the purpose of carrying one or more passengers (including a booking to carry out as sub-contractor a private hire booking accepted by another operator).

(5) In this Act “operating centre” means premises at which private hire bookings are accepted by an operator.
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In the Private Hire Vehicles (London) Act 1998, 'London' means the area consisting of the metropolitan police district and the City of London (including the Temples): s 36. This area corresponds to the administrative area of Greater London: see the London Government Act 1963 ss 2(1), 76 (amended by the Greater London Authority Act 1999 s 323).

As to the metropolitan police district see the London Government Act 1963 s 76 (as amended); and police vol 36(1) (2007 Reissue) para 137. As to the City of London see london government vol 29(2) (Reissue) para 31; and as to the Temples see london government vol 29(2) (Reissue) para 32. As to the administrative area of Greater London see london government vol 29(2) (Reissue).

Regards

JD

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to us yokels anything south watford gap is london

if you were a genuine owner driver/one man band/independent (as i was 15 years ago) the need for a divert is obvious, once your out on a job how would a customer advise of a problem/change of details or cancel?....

my LA states I cant have a mobile number on my vehicle or cards but doesnt mention using one or having it on a website.

Ask you LO for me which law states a driver can't have his mobile number on a business card.

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IDFIMH

can i wait till they grant me a badge before i get up thier noses?


I could shoot holes the size of spain through their regs...


9.8. No advertisement shall be displayed within the interior of the vehicle.

9.9. Under no circumstances must a mobile phone number be advertised on any part of the vehicle, business cards or stationary in order to invite or accept bookings.


9.3. No words, letters or graphics may be displayed on the glazing of the vehicle.



explain "apears to be white" please

6.1. All licensed Private Hire vehicles can be any colour except white or anything which appears to be white.

how many "1600cc" cars are actually 1500cc and a bit?

5.7.3. The vehicle must have engines rated at not less than 1600cc.



they plate tourneos and even peugot 807's but:-

5.7.2. The seating arrangement in ‘People Carrier’ type vehicles will be fixed and approved by the Council. Every seat should have direct access to an exit door, therefore no seat which needs to be tilted, moved or in any way adjusted to gain access to another row of seats will be allowed. The seating will not be moved once the approval has been granted.

Has any licenced PH or Taxi operator ever been charged for taking a booking outside their own area....itd be A different thing if you took a diverted outside your patch to another point outside your patch but within the area you were in at the point of the call reaching you....but whos to say that the phone call didnt originate in your own area by a third party organising a pickup for a friend from the aforesaid area(your Area) , that area being outwith your own area and an area whilst you were also outside your own area.....

so...this being so complicated and ridicuously difficult to prove do you honestly think anyone is going to pursue the issue under the even more remote chance that they are ever going to find out...this coupled with the fact that no local Authority is going to employ half a Dozen Zone Snoopers knowing that it is unlikely that any conviction of a minor infringement of an out of date law is ever likely to come to fruition...no mate...take the bloody booking....

since when has accepting a booking from outside your own LA been an offence? any distance return probably means 1 leg is outside your local LA, certainly every airport in the uk return is outside my LA and im not gonna turn down a pickup thats outside either, so long as im plated, badged and insured, and im 100% its not any sort of offence, if it is then the laws not just an ass, its a cretinous ass too.

we didnt book a local LA PH for our last holiday run to BHX, we booked a birm PH, and if thats wrong then theres no right is there

this why there should be one national plate/badge and seamless and identical costs not unlike a PSV and o-licences.

A condition of license which can be appealed through the courts. It is advisable to put in a request first and then appeal the refusal.



Again a condition of license and the same appeal process is required.



And again the same applies.



Again the same applies.

All conditions are subject to appeal but first you need a reason to appeal which means a refusal. Once you have your refusal then a magistrate will decide if the condition is reasonable or indeed lawful.

The mobile phone number on business cards would be most interesting considering the applicant would probably say that the mobile phone was part of the office setup and is not used for any other purpose except for accepting calls within the office environment.

Naturally accepting private hire bookings other than in the place were the operator holds his licence would be an offence.

Regards

JD

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the first time i go out to do a pickup and the customer then rings my unattended landline to notify me that they arent at the adrees agreed but can i collect them from 2 miles away, and they dont get collected i shall tell them to ring the LA for an explanation as to why

then again, the wording says "to take a booking"......it doesnt say i cant take a call.....


"call 079855566689 - but not to make a booking, just to speak to me"

technology has overtaken old rules and regs (whats the oldest in common use, 1976?)

Like I said, it would lead to a very interesting case. Do you know of any private hire operators who have a mobile phone number on their business cards?

Regards

JD

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I have.

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Grandad,

Down here I don't know of a small op that doesn't.

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IDFIMH

Around here a moble number is the only number most small ops have on thier card

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Why don't you get a proper job???