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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:58 pm 
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Fires are normally attributed to an electrical fault and in particular the loom, does anyone know if this area has been eliminated from the equation?

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Supposedly JD.....diesel and hot turbo's dont mix too well :wink:

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It is widely known that LTI have not identified the exact reason why the vehicles are catching fire,


So how the f**k can they say they are ok after a safety inspection if they don't know what's causing them to catch fire?

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It is widely known that LTI have not identified the exact reason why the vehicles are catching fire,


So how the f**k can they say they are ok after a safety inspection if they don't know what's causing them to catch fire?

Cos they are a bunch of lying c***s. :sad:

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It`s an "Inherrant Characteristic, don`t worry they all do that" :lol:
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Somthings not right with these news story's
We have taxi drivers calling their cabs, cars.
What did Peter Rose mean when he said " by the time I got to the vehicle it was a complete burnt out, a right off. Surely he was driving it, did he run away and then come back. :?:
Why did Justin call his cab a car twice. :?:
Dose anyone know these two drivers :?:


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thomasthetaxi wrote:
Surely he was driving it, did he run away and then come back. :?:

Be a bloody fool to do anything but. :?

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Why did Justin call his cab a car twice. :?:

I know that is very strange.

And maybe that should be the lead story rather than that of the exploding taxis. ](*,)

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I got a letter from LTI/VOSA regarding the issues with the TX4, i own an 07 TX4 so hopefully am unaffected but the letter sets out what may be the problem that's the cause of the recent fires.

I've copied out the letter exaclty as it's worded:-

muppets at LTI wrote:
important customer information. replacement supplement for page 56 of handbook

We are currently investigatiing a small number of instances of smoking and/or fire that has occured on the TX4 model. during this investigation we found that the drain valve on a number of vehicles has led to the drain valve cracking and subsequently a leak of oil

As this may be a contributory factor we have introduced an interim measure by informing customers of the correct method of using and tightening the valve. These instructions should be added to our maintenance instructions concerning the fuel system - found on page 56 of your existing handbook,

Our dealership network has been fully briefed regarding this issue. However if you are undertaking any maintainance yourself or are engaging an independent garage, can you ensure that particular attention is paid to tightening of the drain valve to prevent over tightening.

Please can you place this supplement within the black plastic cover and, as a suggestion, add a note on to page 56 to remind you to refer to it.

This customer information programme is being undertaken following consultation with the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA)




Now a few things spring to mind here, one of which is why is it only a relatively few number of vehicles are affected ? Did they know about these problems on the production line but somehow hoped they wouldn't be of any real concern and just pushed the early ones out then made any changes to the later models ? Are LTI trying to somehow suggest that it's the fault of the garages/mechanics carrying out the servicing thus trying to exonerate themselves from blame ?

What happens now to the 500 or so cabbies that have been forced to stop working their cabs and instead had to go out and rent a cab to keep working, do they get compensated (a rare term in our industry) for the additional expense or is it just tough luck like so many other occasions when you have to wait for 4 or 5 hours (i kid you not) at Mann and Overtons or the like whilst thier grease monkeys carry out yet another recall/modification ?

What of the drivers who have actually had their vehicles go up in flames, How have they been dealt with by their insurers ? Have they been paid out just to the current market value of thier vehicle or have they been given a new vehicle by LTI as part of an insurance agreement ?

As for the driver refering to his taxi as a car, well to be honest, so what ? I'd say we have far more important issues here that need dealing with other than how a driver refers to his vehicle, i'm sure that some drivers even give their cabs a name :shock:

Anyhow, i thought i'd share the contents of the letter with you all so at least you have some idea of what is going on............. 8)


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''dickybird tells me it seems to be affecting cabs that dont get serviced correctly?''

The 56 plate taxis have been subject to two overhauls and two 6 monthly checks also why is it only 56 plate taxis (so far)?
A dodgy run of engines off the production line?

To acabbie's earlier post.
As I said in an earlier post that the blame game would now start with both LTI/PCO blaming the drivers and garages thereby absolving themselves of producing and approving a dangerous vehicle.

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acabbie wrote:
We are currently investigatiing a small number of instances of smoking and/or fire that has occured on the TX4 model. during this investigation we found that the drain valve on a number of vehicles has led to the drain valve cracking and subsequently a leak of oil

As this may be a contributory factor we have introduced an interim measure by informing customers of the correct method of using and tightening the valve.


LTI say this may be a contributory factor? Then again it may not? What happens when one of these cabs that has passed the mandatory ongoing inspection, catches fire? If they don't know what they are looking for then how can they isolate the problem?

I think this story will run and run and it wouldn't surprise me if eventually LTI have to recall all these vehicles and compensate the owners by offering them a new or relatively new vehicle.

Watch this space and thank you all for your contributions on this debate and especially Sussex and any other internet news medium for beating everyone to the punch by publishing the details, days before the National press finally got their act together.

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I can see the LTI/PCO led news story now..

''Credit Crunch Cabbies cutback on servicing risk lives...''

So why is the TX4 (and so far the 56 reg) that's going up in flames and not other taxis?

Stick with it TX4 owners,you've been let down by LTI/PCO.
The media might be on your side with this one!

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Some may remember that I have had a "few" problems in the past :lol: ,just going over my old e mails from our colleagues in Edinburgh :shock: ,guess what, the BBQ syndrome was a problem back in December of 2007,got pictures on file to prove it. :sad:


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That`s the one :wink: ! Sent to me December 2007 :sad: !
Tip of the ice berg :lol:


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