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What are you talking about?

so there ARE enough taxis then? or are you implying that a HC plate+badge equates to "you WILL work 24/7"

the people going out, getting ratfaced, barffing up, fighting, etc,etc wouldnt work 24/7, they work when they want/need to, i thought we all had the choice?

new addition to "The Act"

All hackney carriages WILL work all day every day..

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If there are taxis parked up, not working, how can there be enough taxis? Your logic beats me.

To me this shows that the real criteria is how many drivers are working. Conveniently avoided when deciding how big the fleet should be.

It also supports the basic premise that its not the number of taxis that is relevant, but the number of drivers prepared to work.

The deciding factor should be the driver quality not vehicles. Taxis are just the tool for the job. Its only because owners have control of the numbers, and arrange for the number to be restricted, that the problem exists.

Drivers operating their own vehicles will work the hours that suit their needs, their finances and the personal family situation. If finances dictate that they would need to work longer during peak hours to meet their financial burden that would be a direct benefit to the public - more taxis working when they need them, streets cleared quicker, much improved public safety.

Just now we can see the demand being unmet standing in queues at Marshalled taxi ranks and the long procession of people walking home cos they can't hail a cab. Every step taken by a potential customer is less in the coffers of our trade.

The sure thing, is that market forces will balance it out much more efficiently. Only after that can councils claim they have done their best in respect of public safety, only after that will PH expand to take up any further slack. But the sure thing is the motto has to be "Taxi Trade First".

I also this will be self perpetuating. That if the difficulty in getting a taxi is reduced, then folks may be persuaded to venture out of an evening because they will have a reasonable prospect of getting a taxi home. That can only be good for business.

OK jasbar, if theres a demand, why dont you buy 3 more cabs and recruit drivers to work em?

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Are you implying only the rich should run taxis?

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What a 50K a pop ( prices are coming down, recession and all that)?

You have got to be kidding wannabeeahack?

But therein lies the rub. If there's no demand then why pay 50K for a plate?

Over to you wannabeeahack?

No demand but Ph numbers have tripled in 8 years In the same period licence plates have risen from 25K to 50K but you guessed it - no demand.

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We have an open policy in Dundee regards the number of public hire licences but we have the same problem with private hire picking up illegally. If the police did their job and used the full extent of the law regards the vehicles in question being uninsured then they could eradicate this problem very quickly. Maybe it’s the police who are at fault for turning a blind eye, this allowing our cities to be cleared of the public and leaving them less of a mess to deal with at rush hours?

The sad thing is mr failor has been down every ave to try and get his free plate and is now SADLY going on 24/7 about a poor girl getting raped to try and get his FREE plate. what a SICK OLD MAN.

One things for sure ! if they hail you, you'll no pick them up !!! or have you forgot your own policy of not picking up people under the influence ??



Are you for real ? Its how much people have in their pockets that decides whether they venture out or not !!!

All cities have a shortage of cabs at peak hours, restricted cities even more so. The whole point of the restriction is to limit numbers and therefor limit competition.
Restricted plate numbers result in a greater lack of available taxis at peak hours. That's an undeniable fact. This in turn means people waiting longer at ranks or having to walk. By restricting plate numbers, CEC have allowed this to be a bigger problem than it would otherwise have been.

As I said earlier, at 2am the public don't care if a PH is allowed to pick them up or not, they will use one if they can. The cops don't care either, they just want the streets cleared.
CEC are responsible for PH licencing but have failed to stamp out this practice.

Now the only difference to joe public between a licenced PH and a perv with a mondeo is the plate on the back. PH have no roof sign, no signage and in some cases no meter. Meters and radios are easy to come by on ebay anyway. If the passengers don't look round the back, they may not realise that the car they are getting into is unlicensed or the driver unchecked.
They just assume it's a PH car when it isn't. An easy enough mistake to make on a cold, wet night with a few drinks in.

This is how one thing can lead to another and then another, and then to a tragedy. It may or may not have been forseeable, that is neither here nor there. It has now happened and CEC, Edinburgh police and the trade need to see what can be done to prevent it happening again. Or at least make it harder for the pervs.

It is in a way unfortunate that jasbar was the one to draw attention to this, since it gives those who don't want change the opportunity to claim he is only interested in furthering his own agenda. It is always easy to shoot the messenger, just because you don't like the message. That doesn't make the message any less true.
If this had been highlighted by someone else, especially someone with no interest in taxi politics, how would the message have then been received?

The burning question now is - does keeping a policy in place mean more to your council than the safety of the public ?
Someone needs to look at this from a fresh perspective, before it happens again. Next time there could be a fatality. It does happen.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/nor ... 059790.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/nor ... 168436.stm

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Its not Just PHs they think theyre getting into....they get that p*ssed they wouldnt tell a fully illuminated taxi from Strawbale with wheels on...theyd mistake any vehicle when they get rat arsed...so dont lay the blame just on PHs.

I'm not blaming PH bloodnock. Read it again.

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Aye right enough, that poor wee girl getting raped wouldn't have anything to do with vested interests selling plates So why would anyone pay 50K, for a market of customer demand that doesn't exist?

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It's much harder for a perv to masquerade as a hack - the vehicle not being your typical saloon car.

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you think so...................

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now i know this would be a bit far fetched but it could happen at the end of the day the punters dont look at the plate they look at the yellow light they just want to get home. its all down to the CCTV and police and all this would do is cut the chance of this happening not eliminate it putting more plates on the road is not the answer.

iam sure that taxi companys are supposed to give priority to single females wanting a taxi.