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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:33 am 
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hiya skull mate :D

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How's it hanging bro? :wink:


not too well, that'll be the cold :wink:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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hiya skull mate :D

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How's it hanging bro? :wink:


not too well, that'll be the cold :wink:

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You'd better get yourself round to the rank before hypothermia sets in :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you're lucky, you might get a cab before someone shags you to death :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: oh and don't be surprise if his name is Ross :D

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You'd better get yourself round to the rank before hypothermia sets in :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you're lucky, you might get a cab before someone shags you to death :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: oh and don't be surprise if his name is Ross :D


I suppose the friction could keep me warm :shock:

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So why would anyone pay 50K, for a market of customer demand that doesn't exist?[/quote]

easy,to lauder there cash.You did ask.


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another sicko strikes again

http://www.forthone.com/Article.asp?id=1162370&spid=25613

like i have said skull you cant stop these attacks these guys were determined more taxi is not the answer.

so who is to blame for this one jim CEC again ???? you going to write to this poor girls parents and rant about more taxis

i hope they catch these arse holes and soon


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another sicko strikes again

http://www.forthone.com/Article.asp?id=1162370&spid=25613

like i have said skull you cant stop these attacks these guys were determined more taxi is not the answer.

so who is to blame for this one jim CEC again ???? you going to write to this poor girls parents and rant about more taxis

i hope they catch these arse holes and soon


Apples and oranges, chipper.

Just because this attack wasn't committed by an illegal taxi/PH driver, doesn't make the previous attack any less important. CEC clearly have no responsibility with this one but that does not absolve them of their duty to do what they can to protect the public.

Clearly rapists will still be around even if CEC were to delimit, but it would make it harder for pi$$ed up women to climb into any old saloon car, just because the driver says it's a taxi.

I too hope all of these scumbags are locked up, and soon.

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No council can claim to be protecting public safety until and unless it has done everything it can to do so.

Some CCTV might have been desirable here. As a deterrent. Or a regular police patrol.

Nevertheless, the council restricting taxis still falls short of the benchmark of public safety.


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Nevertheless, the council restricting taxis still falls short of the benchmark of public safety.


In your opinion....obviously.

Does my council policy of emptying our bins every two weeks, thus increasing the possibility of rat infestation which by the way spread the bubonic plague......fall short of the benchmark for public safety too?

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Nevertheless, the council restricting taxis still falls short of the benchmark of public safety.


In your opinion....obviously.

Does my council policy of emptying our bins every two weeks, thus increasing the possibility of rat infestation which by the way spread the bubonic plague......fall short of the benchmark for public safety too?

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Definitely not healthy :wink:

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chipper wrote:
another sicko strikes again

http://www.forthone.com/Article.asp?id=1162370&spid=25613

like i have said skull you cant stop these attacks these guys were determined more taxi is not the answer.

so who is to blame for this one jim CEC again ???? you going to write to this poor girls parents and rant about more taxis

i hope they catch these arse holes and soon


I don't disagree but you don't have to make it easy for the perv. Oh and btw, it's the councils responsibility to ensure that pervs are denied the opportunity.:wink:

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I don't disagree but you don't have to make it easy for the perv. Oh and btw, it's the councils responsibility to ensure that pervs are denied the opportunity.:wink:


Hence Jim being banned from emailing them? :lol:

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Perhaps she wanted a taxi without freezing her tits of at the rank.


Who says she would have had to wait ?? There has been no exact time as to when she left the club ? There could have been taxis on the rank, or even still in the waverly !

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Anyone might think she shouldn't need to think PH . . . .


Why shouldn't she ? Maybe she uses them all the time. Maybe she was thinking of the 20% discount ?

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Couldn't get through on the phones perhaps ? Peak times, you know what it's like . . . .


Peak times ???? With the amount of radio companies and their new technology ie automatic booking, direct link to cabs etc !!!

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No Ross, once again you have it all wrong - in your vain attempt to defend the indefensible - it' s all about choice and service - end of.


What choice ? What service garry ? If I go on a night out, I cant get a bus home when I want, or if i lived out of town like yourself, I cant get a train when I want. Lets be honest Garry, if you could get a train home after a night on the town you would use it.
Its because of the lack of choice and service from other public transport, that keeps us going in the small hours !!


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here is one for you

female decides she wants a night bus but misses it then gets attacked who is to blame for that CEC for not putting on more night buses you do remember they were cut back during the week and the full service only operates at the weekends due to it costing to much to run empty during the week

did someone not say it was CEC duty to make sure the public were safe

i feel there is a email to CEC coming on wooooooooooooooooops :D :D


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In a perfect world we'd all be safe regardless. It's not a perfect world so we're not. It would be sensible to ensure that when we go out we have a plan to get home and an alternative plan in case the first falls through. I've never understood why women take risks or leave things to chance but they do, we've all done it. It's a case of 'there for the grace of god goes I'. We cannot expect the council anywhere to be responsible for everything we do. If we did insist on such services I'm sure they would be provided at a very high price indeed and paid for straight out of the wallets of the working

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The sad thing is mr failor has been down every ave to try and get his free plate and is now SADLY going on 24/7 about a poor girl getting raped to try and get his FREE plate. what a SICK OLD MAN.


All cities have a shortage of cabs at peak hours, restricted cities even more so.The whole point of the restriction is to limit numbers and therefor limit competition.
Restricted plate numbers result in a greater lack of available taxis at peak hours. That's an undeniable fact. This in turn means people waiting longer at ranks or having to walk. By restricting plate numbers, CEC have allowed this to be a bigger problem than it would otherwise have been.

As I said earlier, at 2am the public don't care if a PH is allowed to pick them up or not, they will use one if they can. The cops don't care either, they just want the streets cleared.
CEC are responsible for PH licencing but have failed to stamp out this practice.

Now the only difference to joe public between a licenced PH and a perv with a mondeo is the plate on the back. PH have no roof sign, no signage and in some cases no meter. Meters and radios are easy to come by on ebay anyway. If the passengers don't look round the back, they may not realise that the car they are getting into is unlicensed or the driver unchecked.
They just assume it's a PH car when it isn't. An easy enough mistake to make on a cold, wet night with a few drinks in.

This is how one thing can lead to another and then another, and then to a tragedy. It may or may not have been forseeable, that is neither here nor there. It has now happened and CEC, Edinburgh police and the trade need to see what can be done to prevent it happening again. Or at least make it harder for the pervs.

It is in a way unfortunate that jasbar was the one to draw attention to this, since it gives those who don't want change the opportunity to claim he is only interested in furthering his own agenda. It is always easy to shoot the messenger, just because you don't like the message. That doesn't make the message any less true.
If this had been highlighted by someone else, especially someone with no interest in taxi politics, how would the message have then been received?

The burning question now is - does keeping a policy in place mean more to your council than the safety of the public ?
Someone needs to look at this from a fresh perspective, before it happens again. Next time there could be a fatality. It does happen.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/nor ... 168436.stm


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They just assume it's a PH car when it isn't. An easy enough mistake to make on a cold, wet night with a few drinks in


Its not Just PHs they think theyre getting into....they get that p*ssed they wouldnt tell a fully illuminated taxi from Strawbale with wheels on...theyd mistake any vehicle when they get rat arsed...so dont lay the blame just on PHs.


It's much harder for a perv to masquerade as a hack - the vehicle not being your typical saloon car.



Maybe so...but that would only serve to make the Masquerade more plausible and the pervs chances of success better still....as the saying goes "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck"
...Does'nt mean it is a Duck...


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