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Are they concerned about taxis outside London :?


Concerned? Very emotional word.

They may well concerned about lots of things, but they represent licensed London Taxi drivers, but that does'nt detract from the fact they're still the biggest trade body in Britain, perhaps even Europe?

If one body can acheive that within the confines of London with only 25'000 drivers, why can a National body not acheive those numbers with a potential driver base of 180'000?


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How many plate barons are represented on the MOM, BB?


As far as I'm aware there are none!


You're having a laugh :lol: :lol:

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And how many drivers with no choice but to work for them have their own voice?


The only reason drivers have no choice is because they do not join a represenative body that will support there wishes



Neat trick that. You support plate barons if they are members and would support their drivers against them if they are members.

All things to all people, so long as they cough up the dues.
Very principled :shock:


Perhaps you would like to point out the plate barons?

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Perhaps you would like to point out the plate barons?

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That the best you can come up with after 5 days?
"Let's just pretend we don't know what he's on about??"
Let me help you out then. A plate baron is someone who accumulates licences in a limited area and then hires out cabs to self employed drivers who can't get their own licence because of the limit, and charges them an extortionate amount for the privelige.
Drivers need to compete with each other for a cab since there are more of them than cabs to go round.
This drives up the cost of rentals and consequently requires the driver to work more and more hours to earn a living.
He is not his own man and is dependent on the plate baron for his work. The plate baron can take the cab from the driver on a whim effectively making him unemployed. There is no job security whatsoever.
Because of this, drivers put up and shut up. In practice, modern day slavery.
The driver in reality works for the baron, yet he has none of the hard fought for employee rights enjoyed by most other workers e.g. No minimum wage, no redundancy or sick pay, no paid holidays etc
Rights the trade union movement fought long and hard to gain for the working man.

Of course you knew this already and you know exactly who I mean, don't you?
If you genuinely don't, WTF are you doing here, proporting to be a union man?

I suppose we will have to wait for TF's approval before we get your reply?

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GBC wrote:
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Are they concerned about taxis outside London :?


Concerned? Very emotional word.

They may well concerned about lots of things, but they represent licensed London Taxi drivers, but that does'nt detract from the fact they're still the biggest trade body in Britain, perhaps even Europe?

If one body can acheive that within the confines of London with only 25'000 drivers, why can a National body not acheive those numbers with a potential driver base of 180'000?


Oh don't exaggerate. I was merely asking if they are particularly concerned about anybody outside London? As it appears they are not then the fact that they may be the largest trade body in Europe is of little interest if you work outside London.

Do you have no interests whatsoever outside the London taxi trade and why not expand your sucessful trade body further afield :?

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brightonbreezy wrote:

Perhaps you would like to point out the plate barons?

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That the best you can come up with after 5 days?
"Let's just pretend we don't know what he's on about??"
Let me help you out then. A plate baron is someone who accumulates licences in a limited area and then hires out cabs to self employed drivers who can't get their own licence because of the limit, and charges them an extortionate amount for the privelige.
Drivers need to compete with each other for a cab since there are more of them than cabs to go round.
This drives up the cost of rentals and consequently requires the driver to work more and more hours to earn a living.
He is not his own man and is dependent on the plate baron for his work. The plate baron can take the cab from the driver on a whim effectively making him unemployed. There is no job security whatsoever.
Because of this, drivers put up and shut up. In practice, modern day slavery.
The driver in reality works for the baron, yet he has none of the hard fought for employee rights enjoyed by most other workers e.g. No minimum wage, no redundancy or sick pay, no paid holidays etc
Rights the trade union movement fought long and hard to gain for the working man.

Of course you knew this already and you know exactly who I mean, don't you?
If you genuinely don't, WTF are you doing here, proporting to be a union man?

I suppose we will have to wait for TF's approval before we get your reply?


Mr Gusmac,

Thank-you for your response, I simply asked you to provide me with evidence of your statement. The reason I asked you was because I have attended several meetings of the MOM and the plate issue has never been raised. I was hoping you could educate me.

I thank you for your long and full explanation of what a plate baron is and how the drivers suffer. With 20 years experience in the trade I am aware of your opinion and respect you have the right to believe what you believe. As a Regional and National Secretary of the GMB Professional Drivers Branch's it is my job to present our members wishes to the relevent Authorities both Local and National, I'm sorry your opinion differs to our members.

I would suggest to you that you change our Unions policies if you so wish by joining, you and any driver unhappy with their working conditions are welcome to join and use the GMB with its extensive resources to improve their working conditions.

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Obviously no GMB supported MP is on the make :lol:

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captain cab wrote:
Obviously no GMB supported MP is on the make :lol:

CC


Hello Captain,

Hows u?

I'm unaware of any unless you know different?

Why wern't you at the CRB meeting??????????

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Oh don't exaggerate. I was merely asking if they are particularly concerned about anybody outside London? As it appears they are not then the fact that they may be the largest trade body in Europe is of little interest if you work outside London.

Do you have no interests whatsoever outside the London taxi trade and why not expand your sucessful trade body further afield :?



Why would I have an interst in a Taxi in a North wales village, no more than the Taxi in the North Wales village would have an interest in the London COF or licensing regime?
Anyway, It tends to be 'When London sneezes' 99% of the time, perhaps the guy in Wales should keep one eye on the capital. :?

Emissions, 100% WAV, Knowledge tests to eliminate the dim and uninterested . . .

The LTDA have no plans to represent the county or PH trade, I belive The NTA / NPHA have that angle covered already.


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brightonbreezy wrote:
I would suggest to you that you change our Unions policies if you so wish by joining, you and any driver unhappy with their working conditions are welcome to join and use the GMB with its extensive resources to improve their working conditions.


One question:
If someone joined your union and claimed he was being exploited by a taxi owner in similar conditions to those outlined in my earlier post, what could or would your union do for him?

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I think I'll just wait until the taxi show and ask in person the things I'd like to know before I join any union. As I see it I really don't think there is a lot a union can do for PH driver. I could of course be wrong, but, I doubt it :D

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brightonbreezy wrote:

Hello Captain,

Hows u?

I'm unaware of any unless you know different?

Why wern't you at the CRB meeting??????????

Regards
BB


I dont know, I merely asked the question.

I wasnt at the CRB meeting because I have to drive a cab for a living, unless of course I can train it to drive itself (which would be handy) :wink:

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Agenda and Draft Minutes
Licensing and Safety Committee
Thursday, 2 July 2009 7.30 pm

Minutes:

The Committee noted the information report which provided an update on the Unmet Demand Survey in relation to Hackney Carriages in the Borough. The Committee noted that the survey had involved 280 hours of rank observation and that the findings of the survey, including results of the consultation would be presented to the Committee at their next meeting on 1 October 2009.



The Committee also noted that as there had been no objections the increase in the cost of a Hackney Carriage Licence from £220 to £270 and therefore the new cost had been implemented.

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