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Mr Doom well feckin said...


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:05 am 
Gus, can you get off your lies about me and immigrants, I couldn't give two hoots who drives the cars tbh as long as there aren't too many cars to start with, I drove 7 hours today and took £49 less fuel and less car expenditure, so guess why I don't want a free for all, and back on the foreigners, I like a lot more of them a lot more than I do British ppl, it's the free loaders I don't like, not the guy who is prepared to work, so create your illusion on someone else and stop tar brushing ppl, if I say that Indian over there is a C**t I mean him not the whole Indian community, following it now are we or should I slow down a bit, you spend a hell of a lot of time here btw, how do you earn a living, or is yours a Johnny Cab with a bot driving it.


Oh and another thing, the trade didn't have any problems until the likes of you found it, it always worked that a customer either phoned for a PHC or jumped in a waiting HC had the ride, paid and went on their way, you,Tom Tom's and Data boxes created the problems, the technology let any monkey get a badge, and now we have human rights as well, something you and your kind are so willing to manipulate to your advantage.


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Gus, can you get off your lies about me and immigrants, I couldn't give two hoots who drives the cars tbh as long as there aren't too many cars to start with, I drove 7 hours today and took £49 less fuel and less car expenditure, so guess why I don't want a free for all, and back on the foreigners, I like a lot more of them a lot more than I do British ppl, it's the free loaders I don't like, not the guy who is prepared to work, so create your illusion on someone else and stop tar brushing ppl, if I say that Indian over there is a C**t I mean him not the whole Indian community, following it now are we or should I slow down a bit, you spend a hell of a lot of time here btw, how do you earn a living, or is yours a Johnny Cab with a bot driving it.


Oh and another thing, the trade didn't have any problems until the likes of you found it, it always worked that a customer either phoned for a PHC or jumped in a waiting HC had the ride, paid and went on their way, you,Tom Tom's and Data boxes created the problems, the technology let any monkey get a badge, and now we have human rights as well, something you and your kind are so willing to manipulate to your advantage.


And what exactly is "my kind", Doom?
Be interesting to see what type brush you would tar me with.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:34 am 
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Gus, can you get off your lies about me and immigrants, I couldn't give two hoots who drives the cars tbh as long as there aren't too many cars to start with, I drove 7 hours today and took £49 less fuel and less car expenditure, so guess why I don't want a free for all, and back on the foreigners, I like a lot more of them a lot more than I do British ppl, it's the free loaders I don't like, not the guy who is prepared to work, so create your illusion on someone else and stop tar brushing ppl, if I say that Indian over there is a C**t I mean him not the whole Indian community, following it now are we or should I slow down a bit, you spend a hell of a lot of time here btw, how do you earn a living, or is yours a Johnny Cab with a bot driving it.


Oh and another thing, the trade didn't have any problems until the likes of you found it, it always worked that a customer either phoned for a PHC or jumped in a waiting HC had the ride, paid and went on their way, you,Tom Tom's and Data boxes created the problems, the technology let any monkey get a badge, and now we have human rights as well, something you and your kind are so willing to manipulate to your advantage.


And what exactly is "my kind", Doom?
Be interesting to see what type brush you would tar me with.



Ok, going on what I've read, you are the type who has to interfere with things that ran happily along when you were still swimming in daddies ballsack, someone who sees anyone with something they either haven't or can't have through very green eyes, someone who if you have told the truth has got to be off their head to openly want more competition during a recession, and above all else someone who takes pleasure at others downfall.

There, is that enough info, I could be wrong because I'm judging you on keystrokes, for all I know you might be a real nice fella and I might be wrong on all counts, but you just don't add up to me from what you write.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:52 am 
Pardon me for butting in lads, but...

The term market forces will prevail, has got to be the most cynical of all applied to our Trade. In other words, we are a pack of hungry dogs all fighting for the one bowl of life providing food daily..only the strongest will survive..
Regulation of both numbers and badge holders is the only way forward, most importantly, unity is required or i'm afraid our means of survival will well and truly go to the dogs !!!!


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Doom wrote:
Ok, going on what I've read, you are the type who has to interfere with things that ran happily along when you were still swimming in daddies ballsack,

Firstly, if you believe that things in this trade have ever run happily, you are wrong.
Unlicenced PH before 1976, radios and even the demise of horse drawn hacks spring to mind. There are probably many more.
This trade has always had contentious issues and it always will.

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someone who sees anyone with something they either haven't or can't have through very green eyes,

You are completely wrong here. I already have my own cab and plate, and have had for many years. I don't want to stop others having what I have, unlike you.

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someone who if you have told the truth has got to be off their head to openly want more competition during a recession,

Wrong again. I don't believe cabs are the competition and I believe limiting their numbers just creates unearned income for those who have them at the expense of everyone.
Figure out what the real competition is and you will be some way towards sorting out your trade.
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and above all else someone who takes pleasure at others downfall.

I take no pleasure in watching anyone fall, except those who try to exploit the trade at others' expense.

Now it's my turn.
You seem to be the type who lives in the past, viewing it with rose coloured glasses.
There are hundreds like you in the Aberdeen trade. They spend their days moaning and complaining to anyone who will listen about how great it was when they started and how it's sh*t now. They were here first and that gives them the right to be treated better than anyone who arrived later. Not happy and blaming everyone and anyone else for it. Never mind that they were in the trade when all the changes they don't like happened, they just couldn't be bothered to do anything at the time.

You think that paying for a plate is ok, since you had to and anyone who doesn't is a freeloading sponger.
You wont accept that handing out badges to every Tom, Dick and Harry is a far greater problem than plates, or if you do, you don't think it's worth doing anything about. That's where the real competition comes from - control that and you control the competition - and get a better standard of driver into the bargain. It shows a proper commitment to the trade which the second job, part-time, weekender, need a few quid on the side mob just can't or won't bother with.

Oh and you can't or won't see that you could ever be wrong.

BTW, just how old are you Doom?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:49 pm 
So there's 100's like me and only one like you?

What does that say? that we are all wrong?

I'm in my 40's

As for standards, wake up, all rules can and are being bent, what makes you think insisting on A-Level cabbies is going to change anything, the guy who gets told no will just go to court until he's told yes, back to square one.

And like I said you just don't add up, what you say is like Asda offering Tesco the plot next door.


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Doom wrote:
So there's 100's like me and only one like you?

What does that say? that we are all wrong?

No, it says they are a bunch of moaners who do nothing except moan. They always have and they always will.

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I'm in my 40's

So am I. I just wondered when you sound like your one of these 60+ guys just marking time till they sell up and retire at our expense.

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As for standards, wake up, all rules can and are being bent, what makes you think insisting on A-Level cabbies is going to change anything, the guy who gets told no will just go to court until he's told yes, back to square one.


Same attitude eh? "Not worth trying"," won't work","tried it all before".
So your saying that if someone can't get a badge, they'll just work without one?
BTW If any rule can be bent, what's the point in having a plate limit? Won't they just bend that too?

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And like I said you just don't add up, what you say is like Asda offering Tesco the plot next door.


Yours is more like Asda and Tesco telling Morrison's that they can't buy a plot anywhere unless they buy it from them, or rent it at an inflated price.

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So there's 100's like me and only one like you?

I make two, and there are plenty others.

And even if there was only just Gus and me, what does that say about your side when councils are falling over themselves to de-limit?

Any trade that needs to be protected from fair and equal competition is a trade that deserves to fail.

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So there's 100's like me and only one like you?

I make two, and there are plenty others.

And even if there was only just Gus and me, what does that say about your side when councils are falling over themselves to de-limit?

Any trade that needs to be protected from fair and equal competition is a trade that deserves to fail.


Well see it this way then, when I can't make a living anymore because of your attitude, I shall be signing on and I will be claiming every last penny in benefit I can, yes that's right, your tax money, so you can spend endless hours in a car while I sit and do nothing, hell, maybe I can come along and blag the credit cards and put fleets of cars on in your cities, maybe then you might realise what I was on about all along.


@ Gus, no I'm not a blue rinser yet, but I have done this trade inside and out on both sides, so I sorta am qualified to have seen the effect of your plans before, both you and Mark are putting forward Utopian idea's and in Utopia it would all work, but sadly this is the UK, the land of the brown envelopes and back slappers, so I know it won't work.


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Gus = Taylor and Sussex = Skull :lol:

Surely there canny be more than two knob jockeys in the world? :D

No driver support? End of! I wonder why that is then?mmmmmmmm?
Yer argument stinks,it's been proved to be one of bitterness and revenge. Keep it coming boys, it shows what a real couple of sad t***s you really are. This has taken over your lives. Writing 303 letters to the Edinburgh Evening News and you boast about this. :oops: What a sad sad lot!


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Well see it this way then, when I can't make a living anymore because of your attitude, I shall be signing on and I will be claiming every last penny in benefit I can, yes that's right, your tax money, so you can spend endless hours in a car while I sit and do nothing, hell, maybe I can come along and blag the credit cards and put fleets of cars on in your cities, maybe then you might realise what I was on about all along.

So let's get this right.

You are in the gang that says we only want the immigrants and sh** standards as long as it fills up your restricted cab fleet?

I'm in the gang that says everyone who meets the standard should be treated the same.

Increase the entry criteria by way of higher standards, don't reduce them to keep the barons, many of them who have never driven a cab, rich.

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Surely there canny be more than two knob jockeys in the world? :D

You articulate the pro quota position as only a person on that side could. Image

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Surely there canny be more than two knob jockeys in the world? :D

You articulate the pro quota position as only a person on that side could. [img]
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Ye we know, we're all stupid! :lol: Now jog on! 8)


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Doom wrote:
Well see it this way then, when I can't make a living anymore because of your attitude, I shall be signing on and I will be claiming every last penny in benefit I can, yes that's right, your tax money, so you can spend endless hours in a car while I sit and do nothing, hell, maybe I can come along and blag the credit cards and put fleets of cars on in your cities, maybe then you might realise what I was on about all along.

So let's get this right.

You are in the gang that says we only want the immigrants and sh** standards as long as it fills up your restricted cab fleet?

I'm in the gang that says everyone who meets the standard should be treated the same.

Increase the entry criteria by way of higher standards, don't reduce them to keep the barons, many of them who have never driven a cab, rich.


Edinburgh is full of one plate mini-barons.
They want anything that will keep their plate values safe and supply them with drivers to pay off their ludicrous outlay.
If there was ever a shortage of drivers, they would soon be whining that the knowledge was too hard. :wink:
They need the plate limit and high rentals to survive. Loose either and they are fecked.

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