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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:07 pm 
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300 Now Qualify As Cabbies

30 June 2009

Hundreds of drivers are now the proud holders of a taxi qualification.

Calderdale Council says more than 300 in this district now hold the National Vocational Qualification in road passenger vehicle driving.

Councillor David Kirton, corporate services portfolio holder; said: "I would like to pass on my congratulations to our private hire and hackney carriage drivers who have shown commitment to improving the service for the passengers.

"Taxi and private hire drivers play a hugely important role in Calderdale both socially and economically."

The drivers have been assessed over six to eight weeks, with checks including customer care, regulations, disability awareness, passenger transport and route planning.

Councillor Robert Thornber, licensing and regulatory chairman, said: "The safety of drivers and passengers alike is crucial and it is great to see this level of commitment and dedication in the industry from so many Calderdale taxi and private hire drivers."

Source; halifaxcourier.co.uk

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Does that mean that before they passed their NVQ they were un-qualified cabbies & the council still issued them with cabbie licences, regardless???

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Does that mean that before they passed their NVQ they were un-qualified cabbies & the council still issued them with cabbie licences, regardless???

It means there are a lot of very well off testers up there. :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:40 am 
And all those drivers can now get jobs as civil servants on 50k pa, cos they have a qualification in knowing where Sainsbury's is and how to say hello. :roll:


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Does that mean that before they passed their NVQ they were un-qualified cabbies & the council still issued them with cabbie licences, regardless???

It means there are a lot of very well off testers up there. :roll:


You took the words right out of my mouth there Sussex.


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Whenever I see an article like this it reminds me of Forrest Gump.

I've been to an induction course for NVQ & it was like sitting with loads of Forrest Gumps.

I was just waiting for one of them to say;

My momma always said, "Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."

I dread taking the course, which I will eventually have to.

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It's your own fault you got a cr@p course cos you didn't contribute to it in the first place and you're still doing nothing about it other than complaining. As the old saying goes 'if you put nowt in you get nowt out'. The other thing is given the choice of a fast track training company or a proper provider most drivers are opting for the fast track method so their own actions are devaluing the qualification.

If you're not happy with the course ask your reps to do something about it and come up with an appropriate course or is it that taxi drivers believe there is nothing out there that they can learn?

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It's your own fault you got a cr@p course cos you didn't contribute to it in the first place and you're still doing nothing about it other than complaining. As the old saying goes 'if you put nowt in you get nowt out'. The other thing is given the choice of a fast track training company or a proper provider most drivers are opting for the fast track method so their own actions are devaluing the qualification.

If you're not happy with the course ask your reps to do something about it and come up with an appropriate course or is it that taxi drivers believe there is nothing out there that they can learn?


Why should it be our job to provide the course content?
The course provider should already have this in place before offering the course and taking payment for it.
When someone phones me for a lift, I don't expect them to supply their own car.

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It's your own fault you got a cr@p course cos you didn't contribute to it in the first place and you're still doing nothing about it other than complaining. As the old saying goes 'if you put nowt in you get nowt out'. The other thing is given the choice of a fast track training company or a proper provider most drivers are opting for the fast track method so their own actions are devaluing the qualification.

If you're not happy with the course ask your reps to do something about it and come up with an appropriate course or is it that taxi drivers believe there is nothing out there that they can learn?


That's not the point. I have always believed that everybody learns 'til the day they die.

I was actually on a Fast Track Course, because I was being put forward as a possible future tutor. But because of personal circumstances & issues over the last year or more, I had to drop out. I will now have to do the course again.

As I understand it, drivers who have been in the trade for some time should have an accessment of what they already know, so that they are not wasting their time going over that knowledge, and do the course other than those points that they already know. But invariably this does not happen, because tutors, colleges etc would loose out financially if they adopted this true course of action.

What annoyed me was the induction course, which was to establish the level of numeracy & literacy for each individual candidate. Needless to say the standard of most applicants was poor, crap, ultra crap or just plain stupid.

So the tutor helped most of those.

But when the tutors, all of them, were also so poor that on several occasions they mis-interpreted the meaning of the questions in the numeracy section of the induction course that candidates were answering in an open debate classroom & I had to explain to them why they had mis-interpreted the question & what the question really meant & what the answer therefore was, is it little wonder that I believe the NVQ is little more than a 'Jobs Worth' piece of paper certificate.

There may well be good NVQ courses out there, but what I experienced was truly, 'the sight impaired leading the blind'!!!

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It's your own fault you got a cr@p course cos you didn't contribute to it in the first place and you're still doing nothing about it other than complaining. As the old saying goes 'if you put nowt in you get nowt out'. The other thing is given the choice of a fast track training company or a proper provider most drivers are opting for the fast track method so their own actions are devaluing the qualification.

If you're not happy with the course ask your reps to do something about it and come up with an appropriate course or is it that taxi drivers believe there is nothing out there that they can learn?


Why should it be our job to provide the course content?
The course provider should already have this in place before offering the course and taking payment for it.
When someone phones me for a lift, I don't expect them to supply their own car.


You're right and they have provided the course content and the trade don't like it. With this kind of attitude you deserve all the sh*te content they've put in it.

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There may well be good NVQ courses out there, but what I experienced was truly, 'the sight impaired leading the blind'!!!


Can I ask what you did about it?

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gusmac wrote:
toots wrote:
It's your own fault you got a cr@p course cos you didn't contribute to it in the first place and you're still doing nothing about it other than complaining. As the old saying goes 'if you put nowt in you get nowt out'. The other thing is given the choice of a fast track training company or a proper provider most drivers are opting for the fast track method so their own actions are devaluing the qualification.

If you're not happy with the course ask your reps to do something about it and come up with an appropriate course or is it that taxi drivers believe there is nothing out there that they can learn?


Why should it be our job to provide the course content?
The course provider should already have this in place before offering the course and taking payment for it.
When someone phones me for a lift, I don't expect them to supply their own car.


You're right and they have provided the course content and the trade don't like it. With this kind of attitude you deserve all the sh*te content they've put in it.


So you see nothing wrong with some fly by night offering an irrelevant or crap course, so long as those forced to take the course actually teach each other something? :shock:

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There may well be good NVQ courses out there, but what I experienced was truly, 'the sight impaired leading the blind'!!!


Can I ask what you did about it?


When I re-start my course I will move to another centre.

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There may well be good NVQ courses out there, but what I experienced was truly, 'the sight impaired leading the blind'!!!


Can I ask what you did about it?


PS.

What is your angle on this?

You seem to be fully wound up on this topic!!

Are you a tutor, assessor, professor or Emeritus Professor?

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
300 Now Qualify As Cabbies

Whenever I see an article like this it reminds me of Forrest Gump.

I've been to an induction course for NVQ & it was like sitting with loads of Forrest Gumps.

I was just waiting for one of them to say;

My momma always said, "Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."

I dread taking the course, which I will eventually have to.

Why is it all about the NVQ now ? wotever happened to the marvelous Btec which cost us billions?


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