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skippy41
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Send them a link to this post and tell them to catch up with the real world
And you want the warning scrubbed
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you could transfer your home phone number to an address in your license area.ie friends,takeaway ect. and put a call divert to your mobile.
or your new house phone number if you do it that whey.Its all expence so i would just advertise my mobile.How much is an operators license, it may be cheaper to get one, you dont need any vehicles to take bookings.
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Derby Ram wrote:
Today I have received a written caution from the LO who interviewed me.

'As we discussed,you are allowed to pick up anywhere as you hold a HC licence but the law is quite precise in that you are not allowed to advertise as operating from your home address.You may only take bookings from an area in which you hold a licence,i.e. anywhere in the Derby City Council area.This means that calls or bookings must be taken in that area only.Whether or not you drive through that area is academic,the actual offence is committed by advertising as operating from your address.The written caution means should you be seen advertising,or operating in this area unlawfully,you may be prosecuted for any future offences.
Derby City Council will be advised of this as you are registered with them.'

So,does this mean I need to lose the home number then?
Opinions welcome,especially lawfully correct ones! :wink:
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They know perfectly well that they are powerless to stop you going about your business; they just want your cash and all the red tape that goes with it.
Derby just stop advertising your home number & change it to 0800 or similar & I think the term under the radar is appropriate. They cannot then tell if they ring you up whether you are answering your home phone or a mobile. They have no proof. Its all bulls*it anyway.
You can advertise in their LO and any other LO however you just cannot advertise from your home. I would try to be neutral or vague when advertising, i.e. JOE BLOGGS Airport service serving Derby, Leicester, Nottingham etc. I hope this helps you!
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you can also take a skype number and select an area code (eg 0121 like ive got) and put that on divert to your landline or mobile, no-one would be any the wiser and no-one can tell where the phone is based...

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Ask them to quote the law upon which they are purporting to rely.

Do we know a good solicitor who specialises in licensing matters? It may be worthwhile to call their bluff, let them go to court and then enjoy the results!!
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Ask them to quote the law upon which they are purporting to rely.

Do we know a good solicitor who specialises in licensing matters? It may be worthwhile to call their bluff, let them go to court and then enjoy the results!!
I would like to go and watch that.
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if he needs an op licence, does this mean that all those travel agents that take bookings for airport transfers ect are also acting illegally?
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if he needs an op licence, does this mean that all those travel agents that take bookings for airport transfers ect are also acting illegally?

No, as they are IMO customers in the same way as bar and restaurant staff are when booking cars.

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if he needs an op licence, does this mean that all those travel agents that take bookings for airport transfers ect are also acting illegally?
He is a HC so does not need a operators license.
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He is a HC so does not need a opperators license.

I agree, It would appear that his local council are saying he needs an op licence to take bookings in their area? cos his hc is licensed by derby he cant take bookings for it in their area.By getting an ops license for his home address problem solved,as you correctly say a hc does not need an ops lic so he will be able to pass work to himself and any other hc in the country.
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He is a HC so does not need a opperators license.

I agree, It would appear that his local council are saying he needs an op licence to take bookings in their area? cos his hc is licensed by derby he cant take bookings for it in their area.By getting an ops license for his home address problem solved,as you correctly say a hc does not need an ops lic so he will be able to pass work to himself and any other hc in the country.
Am I correct that you are saying he needs an op license at his home address. If you are, you are incorrect. He already has one. A TAXI is the Operating centre by definition. That is why the plate is usually dearer to purchase from the local council.
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he is advertising his home address and phone number for his bookings?
If he used a mobile and took the bookings in his licenced area no problem,dont need ops licence, as you say hc dont need ops licence due to the gladen case, but he is not taking bookings in his hc,hes taking them from his abode. I just think to save any hassle it would be easier to get ops lic.
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he is advertising his home address and phone number for his bookings?
If he used a mobile and took the bookings in his licenced area no problem,dont need ops licence, as you say hc dont need ops licence due to the gladen case, but he is not taking bookings in his hc,hes taking them from his abode. I just think to save any hassle it would be easier to get ops lic.


erm, "mobile" - ? only anser the phone inside his own LA?..

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mancityfan wrote:
he is advertising his home address and phone number for his bookings?
If he used a mobile and took the bookings in his licenced area no problem,dont need ops licence, as you say hc dont need ops licence due to the gladen case, but he is not taking bookings in his hc,hes taking them from his abode. I just think to save any hassle it would be easier to get ops lic.
I think the gentleman would prefer to keep his current plate so it would be easier to get a 0800 I recon. He still ok to take bookings in another LA with his mobile, but just cannot use or being seen to be using his own home telephone. He is then operating from his home without planning/ops license/badge & plate.
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presumably if he has a website with a bookings page that cant work for out-of-area users?

is Derby taking ideas from Beiijing now?

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