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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:11 pm 
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A district council may attach any reasonable condition to a PH drivers license. However they do not have the power to attach conditions to HC drivers licenses except by new bylaws.


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I dont agree BC.....and I'm yet to be convinced how such actions could be deemed reasonably necessary.

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Impressions count as we have all found out recently at Birmingham Airport.

Even on this forum, drivers who deliver passengers at the airport from different LAs have commented how smart we all look.

Who the hell wants to be picked up by a driver wearing his pyjamas from the far east, hence dress codes are coming in more around the country.

Reasonably necessary, I think so, but only because the mimority screw it up for the majority, so then the majority have to suffer.

I am a great believer in looking smart for the job & have never in nearly 35 year worn a T-shirt or the like to transport my passengers.

If I had wanted to be a hod-carrier, then I would have done that job & looked like a 'bag 'o sh*t' all day long, which sadly a lot of driver do.

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captain cab wrote:
I dont agree BC.....and I'm yet to be convinced how such actions could be deemed reasonably necessary.

regardsCC

Impressions count as we have all found out recently at Birmingham Airport.

Even on this forum, drivers who deliver passengers at the airport from different LAs have commented how smart we all look.

Who the hell wants to be picked up by a driver wearing his pyjamas from the far east, hence dress codes are coming in more around the country.

Reasonably necessary, I think so, but only because the mimority screw it up for the majority, so then the majority have to suffer.

I am a great believer in looking smart for the job & have never in nearly 35 year worn a T-shirt or the like to transport my passengers.

If I had wanted to be a hod-carrier, then I would have done that job & looked like a 'bag 'o sh*t' all day long, which sadly a lot of driver do.


Then we have a difference of opinion we're not likely to agree on.

I have written about scruffy 'bag of sh*te' drivers on numerous occasions, but I dont see why a council should tell anyone how to dress.

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A district council may attach any reasonable condition to a PH drivers license. However they do not have the power to attach conditions to HC drivers licenses except by new bylaws.

Thank you Mr Tom2907; that's the missing link.

Yes, a council may amend the bye-laws & if they deem it reasonably necessary to impose a dress code on drivers & IF THE LAWYERS AT THE DfT AGREE, (because all HC bye-laws have to be screened by them), then such a bye-laws when ratified by the full council would become enforceable.

Roll on the day when it becomes nationwide. The reputation of the cabbie might then get a greatly needed boost.

Now that should stir some lively debate on here!!!

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Lets allow a council to tell us what to wear.... so were all uniform, and then lets allow them to make all our cabs the same colour....so were all a uniform colour, and finally lets allow them to tell us the make and model of vehicle we can driver....so were all uniform. :wink:

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Then we have a difference of opinion we're not likely to agree on.

I have written about scruffy 'bag of sh*te' drivers on numerous occasions, but I dont see why a council should tell anyone how to dress.CC


I think we both agree that there is a problem with a good proportion of drivers, in respect of presentability.

Now Captain, other than attaching a Condition of License for a PH driver, or adding to the bye-laws for HC drivers to cover presentability of drivers, what other meaningful avenue is there for a council to take, so that these drivers are presentable?

There is no other course of action that a council can take to enforce a minimum driver presentability standard.

Councils don't like to go to these lengths unless they really have to in order to solve a problem. So in this particular case I would imagine the problem is quite severe.

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Lets allow a council to tell us what to wear.... so were all uniform, and then lets allow them to make all our cabs the same colour....so were all a uniform colour, and finally lets allow them to tell us the make and model of vehicle we can driver....so were all uniform. :wink: CC

In a lot of areas your second & third point already exists.

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I dont see why a council should tell anyone how to dress.CC


Neither do I unless it's necessary and you have seen first hand that it is apparently necessary for some drivers to be told. In this day an age of PC it's not easy for a council to pull aside the individual driver that needs to be told so consquently they'll put it in the conditions of licence if they have to, which in my opinion they do. Having said that I can't wait to see how they tackle the hygienically challanged drivers :shock:

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I dont see why a council should tell anyone how to dress.CC


Neither do I unless it's necessary and you have seen first hand that it is apparently necessary for some drivers to be told. In this day an age of PC it's not easy for a council to pull aside the individual driver that needs to be told so consquently they'll put it in the conditions of licence if they have to, which in my opinion they do. Having said that I can't wait to see how they tackle the hygienically challanged drivers :shock:

Offer to sell them a bar of soap & a big bottle of water perhaps?

A driver was sent home off the airport today for wearing grey trousers instead of black ones, as he signed his contract to do.

What's the betting he wears black trousers from now on?

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I wouldn't object to wearing a uniform it takes the guess work out of 'what to wear'. The company I work for have issued polo shirts. I don't particularly like them and I don't think they are smart but as I said at least now I know what I'm wearing :D

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
A driver was sent home off the airport today for wearing grey trousers instead of black ones, as he signed his contract to do.

But that's because he agreed to adhere to the dress code required by the contractor, it has nothing to do with the council.

I haven't a problem with a dress code, other than it will never be able to be enforced by any of the acts.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
A driver was sent home off the airport today for wearing grey trousers instead of black ones, as he signed his contract to do.

But that's because he agreed to adhere to the dress code required by the contractor, it has nothing to do with the council.

I haven't a problem with a dress code, other than it will never be able to be enforced by any of the acts.


My point to a tee.

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captain cab wrote:
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
A driver was sent home off the airport today for wearing grey trousers instead of black ones, as he signed his contract to do.

But that's because he agreed to adhere to the dress code required by the contractor, it has nothing to do with the council.

I haven't a problem with a dress code, other than it will never be able to be enforced by any of the acts.


My point to a tee.

CC


So surely if the council put conditions on a licence regarding dress codes then one would consider that a driver agrees to the dress code if they apply for and take out a licence :?

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So surely if the council put conditions on a licence regarding dress codes then one would consider that a driver agrees to the dress code if they apply for and take out a licence :?


When you are licensed the council must determine whether of not you're 'fit and proper', unless you turn up in a gimp mask, could you please tell me how a pair of wranglers and a Newcastle United top should affect your application :wink:

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captain cab wrote:
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So surely if the council put conditions on a licence regarding dress codes then one would consider that a driver agrees to the dress code if they apply for and take out a licence :?


When you are licensed the council must determine whether of not you're 'fit and proper', unless you turn up in a gimp mask, could you please tell me how a pair of wranglers and a Newcastle United top should affect your application :wink:

CC


When you go for your application you're not dressed for work and I can assure you that if you wore a Newcastle top here they would replace it with a white jacket and give you paper and crayons to play with :wink: That aside councils have no balls to tell people that they are scruffy or hygenienically challenged so it is another of those things that they need to consider due to a minority number of drivers

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