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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:25 pm 
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Tom Thumb wrote:
Disagree Sussex.

If you cover a large rural area your zones could be up to 50 square miles for outlying areas.

Then closest car becomes essential even across different zones.

For example you have three cars on the way to Heathrow, you want the closest to being free to get the waiting job surely.

If there are no cars booked on a point/zone, then the closest car makes sense. But when you have a number of cars booked on, it should be first on that zone/point.

As for your Heathrow, you could be the closest, but if the job is at T4, and your car is stuck in the tunnel going to T2, and you have a car 10 minutes away going to T4, then the job could go to the nearest, but the quickest could lose out.

As clear as mud. #-o

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Does anyone know how much the new system will cost per car for a 140 car fleet, that already has Auriga.
I know I could ring them, but then they want to sell me everything, and it gets on my tits.

According to someone at the show who is in the process of buying, it's £700 per data head, he also sort of said that you could double that with all the extras.

So for you 140 car system it would work out at £196,000. :shock: :shock:

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Anonymous wrote:
Does anyone know how much the new system will cost per car for a 140 car fleet, that already has Auriga.
I know I could ring them, but then they want to sell me everything, and it gets on my tits.

According to someone at the show who is in the process of buying, it's £700 per data head, he also sort of said that you could double that with all the extras.

So for you 140 car system it would work out at £196,000. :shock: :shock:


if thats from champaign charlie its worth a miss


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Sussex wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Does anyone know how much the new system will cost per car for a 140 car fleet, that already has Auriga.
I know I could ring them, but then they want to sell me everything, and it gets on my tits.

According to someone at the show who is in the process of buying, it's £700 per data head, he also sort of said that you could double that with all the extras.

So for you 140 car system it would work out at £196,000. :shock: :shock:


Based on what i saw at the show - a system being demonstrated without any test data on data heads that had virtually unreadable colour displays " We have advanced orders for 1200 of these units they should be available in January" I would give them a wide birth.

The PDA systems from companies like Mercury and Cordic are making the functionality of Auriga look dated. You cannot get away from having to pay huge sums of money for Auriga/Raywood custom data heads. PDAs are heavily subsidised by the network operator you choose and are available for as little as £7:50 per week (three year contract)with turn by turn navigation thrown in. In three years time when your PDA contracts are up the upgrade path will still only cost you around £7:50 per week whereas the new custom data head will cost another £500 - £600. For all the scare stories of networks failing etc they still is a very persuasive argument for the PDA route.

Beleive me landlines fail - transmitters fail. The GPRS network will go down that is inevitable but unlike BT I bet they get it up and running again within a few hours and not a few days!!!


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You can do a simple bit of math here:

£7.50 * 52 weeks * 3 years = £1170. For 140 cars that amounts to £164k, albeit spread over 3 years.

So a bit more than £600 per vehicle (£84k for 140 cars). And very cleverly done.

Also if the GPRS network goes down every Friday night due to limited capacity (since GSM voice has priority) you have to question the network operators' intentions regarding expansion of their capacity. I did just that. When I put the scenario to O2 some time ago they said they have no expansion plans, but I guess their position will probably change over time if they receive enough pressure from people.

Auriga point-blank refused to demo their system to me (not surprising really...), so I was unable to be impressed by Evocab or their data unit. They had (unwittingly?) demoed it to Stewart, who told me that their data unit doesn't feature routeing. If this is the case, then it's a real pity.

At least, with the help of "Radioman", I got to find out what they mean by "Spatial Awareness".

Did anyone else think that the figure on one of the insurance stands had a likeness to George Bush?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:37 am 
This is pure misinformation by PMR suppliers. O2 and several other network providers provide dedicated GPRS timeslot(s). As a result, GSM voice does not get piority over GPRS data when the network is busy and why one think that GPRS network will go down EVERY FRIDAY ? This is just to scare people who want to consider moving to GPRS based solution.

Glad to know that we have people on this forum that can get reliable inside information from big organisation such as O2 on their bussines plan and their future expansion strategy on their GPRS and GSM expansion plan !!

For your information, GPRS network is very much under utilised and network operators are trying hard to sell data tariffs as it is getting harder to sell more GSM voice contracts.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:52 pm 
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....if the GPRS network....


looka: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/if


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Diplomat was very quiet all day tuestay and wednesday not as busy as auriga or coded data
the coded data system looks very good and seems easy to use


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:58 pm 
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Fool. That statement is complete rubbish. This is the kind of statement I'd expect to hear from a sales/marketing type person who doesn't have a proper handle on digital communications engineering.



Such as?

Stew ?

Nah. Stew wouldn't talk like that. He'd tell you didn't want what you just asked him for.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:52 pm 
The Auriga system is by far the best on the market. Their data heads are cheaper than anybody elses and they are the easiest to use. It never goes wrong and their support staff are friendly and knowledgable. The Auriga stand was the busiest at the show because everyone knows they are the best.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:58 pm 
Rubbish! I was on the Coded Data stand at the show and had to wait over an hour to talk to one of their sales reps because they were so busy talking to enthusiastic customers. Most of them had Coded Data systems in already and just could not praise them enough.

After waiting in the queue for over an hour I could not wait to sign the order. Within 24 hours the whole system was installed without a hitch and everything has been working perfectly ever since. I would have come on the forum sooner to tell you this but I've been rushed off my feet with all the new business I've got since installing the Coded Data system.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:16 pm 
Yeah well, this afternoon I rang Auriga and Coded Data and said the first of you that can get here and install a system I will buy it for my 200 car fleet. That was at 2pm. Both arrived at 2.15 and installed their systems and we have been running for two and a half hours without any problems at all. They both were such wonderful people that I am amazed the people who really have alll the gear already keep complaining about. I run a fleet of 200 flying pigs and I know what I am talking about.

So there.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:20 pm 
Bull****!

Autocab is the most sophisticated and elegant booking and despatch system I have ever used and their superior system was proven by them having the biggest stand at the show. DOS is by far the operating system of the future. The data heads offered by Autocab are the most robust and highest quality of anything on the market. The displays are crystal clear and the wide range of terminals they offer means that I can have a different one in each of my cars.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:42 pm 
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....and their superior system was proven by them having the biggest stand at the show


I don't think so; even Exel had a bigger stand than Autocab this time.


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Who the fluck are Coded Data?

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