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You can agree with Doom until the cows come home, what he states will never, ever happen.



If it is a dangerous practice then our hours will eventually be limited.

If people are crying about earning well below the minimum wage, then unless they want to starve to death they will have to supplement their incomes with government handouts, like many do now.

Either that or leave the trade.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

CC I know it will never happen as regards PH companies, but, that doesn't stop me thinking what a good idea or more to the point 'if only'.



It's not a case of "If it is a dangerous practice" it is a dangerous practice and as you say maybe hours will be restricted. I'm fully aware that many drivers already have state assistance I was merely pointing out that it is not always as easy as just changing circuits.

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

Then perhaps you should dedicate you're time to something that will bring forth a solution, rather than thinking about 'if only'

I wager a good number of drivers who state they are having to work excessive hours would be the same ones shouting loudly about not being able to do excessive hours.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I find your argument very agreeable! & it saves me typing time.

Well clearly you are wrong.

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IDFIMH

Maybe so, but what you write isn't in the interest of cabbies, and if you are what you say I just cannot understand your train of thought on most things, the only thing I do find myself in full agreement with you with is the Baron issues, but opening doors doesn't sort that out does it, as the Capt of the Herald of Free Enterprise found out, look at that, a warning from 20 years ago, Herald of FREE Enterprise and it rolled over and sank.

Says who, other than you and a few other folks?

I doubt it's the 1000s of cabbies that have got free plates c/o OFT and the DfT.

Higher standards is the answer to the trade's woes, not out-dated restrictions.

The problem the taxi trade has is that the likes of you have allowed a 100% de-limited PH trade free reign on all your ex work.

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IDFIMH

Yes, hindsight is a wonderful thing; 20-20 vision.

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Brummie Cabbie.

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I think you're mistaken.

I think the likes of PH operators undercutting the HC trade at every conceivable opportunity has helped.

I think the PH trade giving the impression they are 'taxis' has muddied the water.

That being said.

The HC trade has always had every advantage over the PH trade, some are so interested in retaining ridiculously low numbers a service cannot be truley offered to the public they need.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Come here and do PH then, after the 3rd £2.60 fare that you are probably used to getting £3.80 for locally you'll be off with your tail between your legs, add in the 3 chavs doing the drug run between the estates and I'm sure you'll see things differently, where you are it's hardly likely that old Maud Arkwright and Bill Churcher are gonna try to mug you is it, anyone can clean up if you do it so cheap it's a bargain, thing is though you never find these cheap cab firm owners doing the graft do you, still wants premium money for the radio though, ain't no 20% discount for quiet weeks or for being on the firm a certain length of time is there, I think you're confident that a dereg works in places like Eastbourne because it's effectively a cottage industry type of place and nobody is really that interested in it to flood it, but what you say is read by others as a one for all solution that may work for you, but won't work for others.

Indeed I would, and I would suggest others leave as well.

If a job ain't worth a toss then why are folks joining?

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IDFIMH

Try impoverished area, flooded with immigrants and Indian's, Indian's are going the same way with cabs as they did with Post Offices,Corner shops and petrol stations right now, they probably own half the plates here now and are looking to set up an office some time soon, I believe the stumble block is someone let the cat out of the bag that no white drivers would be taken on, but regarding them getting the plates if they are prepared to invest then I guess thats business for you, but as originally said I don't want to end up with a radio doing cheapies with customers who moan about the price even though it so low it's criminal, our meter rate is well below yours, mainly because of the competion with PH, if they had to come into line on price all those that ring from stations would be in my car, totally ruined it is, 1986 the difference in a fare was 10p, 2009 it's something like £1.50, we even deffered rises for 5 years some time ago, in the end we had to have 3 within 3 years to simply bring it back up with being able to earn a living.

It's difficult to close the door after the proverbial horse has bolted. I have sympathy for your local area dilemma.
I still say the key to this is a restriction of licenses. I know it’s difficult to implement this in your local LA now, but it should have been done a lot earlier. The De-reg smokescreen has all been targeted at the plates and not the licenses.
PPL have been rightly worried that there would be an influx of newbie’s & the possible loss of the plate value. They have not been looking at the licensing issue at all.

But isn't this what the PCO do in London, albeit un-officially.

Make driver's licenses harder, but not impossible, to get, and everyone wins.

Less drivers and less riff-raff.

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IDFIMH

Yes and recently we have seen or heard of all manner of lunatics being licensed as London Cab Drivers.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin