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the current 2 party setup (well, 2 and a half) could have run its day/had its time

If we got rid of the current system and replaced it with 'proportional representation' then we would have around 20 BNP MPs. :sad:

Does proportional representation mean proportional government though?

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Does proportional representation mean proportional government though?

In my view it means a nightmare. :sad:

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Does proportional representation mean proportional government though?

In my view it means a nightmare. :sad:

Not necessarily.

In the beginning perhaps, but when the population have an idea what the other 'fringe parties' stand for because they are now represented in Parliament & are equally reported in the media, perhaps voting patterns might change to electing the common sense politicains, at following elections.

It would certainly de-restrict, de-regulate, de-limit Parliament & create competition!!

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Good radio programme link below;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/news/ ... t_sl.shtml

Europe Today's James Coomarasamy takes a detailed look at the relationship between the far right and the media in France, Hungary, Sweden, Germany and the UK.

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when are you guaranteed to see your MP?


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when are you guaranteed to see your MP?



when they come round canvassing before an election usually..


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After all they did get almost a million votes in the European elections & I can’t believe we have almost a million nutters in the country. So WHY did those people vote BNP?


Their popularity is being fuelled by the mainstream parties ingnoring the views of the common people of this country.
Mainstream politicians slavishly follow PC policies which p*ss off the majority of their voters.
When they ignore their electorate and listen only to minorities, they alienate their own supporters and deliver them into the hands of extremists like the BNP.
Nick Griffen and the BNP don't have to do anything - Labour, Tories and the Liberals are doing it for them.

It's one thing.... voting him in as an EU minister.... I should imagine a large majority voted him in simply to wake up the mainstream parties...... but who in their right mind would vote him in to become prime minister?.... he has every right to be on Question Time.... it saddens me when people say he should not appear.... they then become him. if you believe in democracy then you have to accept it in its entirety and not just the bids that suit oneself..... and I'm not suggesting that is your view...

So let's follow that ideal thro about having people on Question Time, because we are a democracy, which I agree with.

How about a radical Iman on the show?

With translator of course!!

there are many things about democracy that people dislike.... bought would you prefer to live under a dictatorship

Because of the weaknesses of our indiginous political parties, that's the way it's heading.

It's no good saying any different. This 'movement' for want of a better word started decades ago & will probably last three or four generations until it's completion.

These things don't happen over-night, they evolve. We accept & then grow used to some that is alien to us & once we have accepted this 'thing' that is alien to us, we become it. Then we accept another 'thing' that is even more alien to us at the start, but because we have already accepted something that is only alien (as opposed to even more alien) the acceptance of the even more alien 'thing' becomes easier to accept now, because we are becoming 'conditioned'. And so it goes on.

Also, these things don't happen in the same areas of the country at the same time; if they did, they wouldn't come about because people would object en masse.

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Now the BNP don't like Nick Griffin;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009 ... n-time-bnp

And some sensible voices come out of the woodwork;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/6400 ... urish.html

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Whom do you suggest?

It's not for me to tell you who to vote for.


My point is that the mainstream parties have all got the same attitude.
    Tories - PC policy
    Labour - PC policy
    Liberals - PC policy

Not much choice really, unless PC is what you want.

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After all they did get almost a million votes in the European elections & I can’t believe we have almost a million nutters in the country. So WHY did those people vote BNP?


Their popularity is being fuelled by the mainstream parties ingnoring the views of the common people of this country.
Mainstream politicians slavishly follow PC policies which p*ss off the majority of their voters.
When they ignore their electorate and listen only to minorities, they alienate their own supporters and deliver them into the hands of extremists like the BNP.
Nick Griffen and the BNP don't have to do anything - Labour, Tories and the Liberals are doing it for them.
It's one thing.... voting him in as an EU minister.... I should imagine a large majority voted him in simply to wake up the mainstream parties...... but who in their right mind would vote him in to become prime minister?.... he has every right to be on Question Time.... it saddens me when people say he should not appear.... they then become him. if you believe in democracy then you have to accept it in its entirety and not just the bids that suit oneself..... and I'm not suggesting that is your view...
I couldn't agree more. Democracy requires the likes of Mr Griffen to have his say, regardless of how repugnant it may be.
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when are you guaranteed to see your MP?

At their weekly surgeries? :?

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gusmac wrote:
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gusmac wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
After all they did get almost a million votes in the European elections & I can’t believe we have almost a million nutters in the country. So WHY did those people vote BNP?


Their popularity is being fuelled by the mainstream parties ingnoring the views of the common people of this country.
Mainstream politicians slavishly follow PC policies which p*ss off the majority of their voters.
When they ignore their electorate and listen only to minorities, they alienate their own supporters and deliver them into the hands of extremists like the BNP.
Nick Griffen and the BNP don't have to do anything - Labour, Tories and the Liberals are doing it for them.
It's one thing.... voting him in as an EU minister.... I should imagine a large majority voted him in simply to wake up the mainstream parties...... but who in their right mind would vote him in to become prime minister?.... he has every right to be on Question Time.... it saddens me when people say he should not appear.... they then become him. if you believe in democracy then you have to accept it in its entirety and not just the bids that suit oneself..... and I'm not suggesting that is your view...
I couldn't agree more. Democracy requires the likes of Mr Griffen to have his say, regardless of how repugnant it may be.
Deny democracy and you become what you despise.




I'd like to disagree here and tell you you are wrong but I can't, not fully anyway, if the BNP was to embrace the foreign ppl who feel the same way as we do and finally rid itself of the hate card it could be the alternative, sadly there are two types of watcher, one who seeks total removal by any means, and two, someone like myself who wants his country back but doesn't want ppl getting attacked and running in fear, example number one is no better than the anti west preacher in a mosque in my eyes, where number two could if worked right rid the country of the hate police and still retain foreign ppl who do it right and just want to live in peace.

I think the Asian community has a lot to answer for, if they dropped the old India routine and integrated like some have we could move forwards, but all thetime that community allows the likes of one hand to lead them then I'm sorry but I can't accept them.


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gusmac wrote:
My point is that the mainstream parties have all got the same attitude.
    Tories - PC policy
    Labour - PC policy
    Liberals - PC policy
Not much choice really, unless PC is what you want.

One way to look at it is to suss out which party is best for you.

The way I think I will decide where my vote goes in May is which party is least worst. :?

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wannabeeahack wrote:
when are you guaranteed to see your MP?


Never. We are in what is virtually a one party seat [not The Speaker].


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Sussex wrote:
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when are you guaranteed to see your MP?

At their weekly surgeries? :?


nah

every time they want your vote

then they scuttle back under the rocks


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