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ALI T wrote:
the nearest you could get with your pilot scenario.
is the caa/jaa who would issue you with the license to fly after passing the test for an cpl/atpl
kinda like a licence to operate a taxi :wink:
don't know the exact costs of that but i doubt it costs more than a few hundred pounds.

also you don't have to get the use of another qualified pilots license for the tune of £40-50k do you :lol:


My point is that there is differences of investment within many trades, there is differences in regulation within many trades, no 2 trades work the same in the majority of cases. Investment creates fettered access no matter what trade though, if i can't afford a pilots licence i can't afford to be a pilot, if i can't afford the right to operate a Licenced Taxi i can however use my other option of driving a Taxi, a pilot only has one option, within the taxi trade i can though have unfettered access to a PHC operators licence as many airport taxi drivers do. The trade has many way's it can work other trades don't.

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But you will still not say what the NTA's policy is towards restriction. Why so coy?


Well basically, this is the Scottish Section and the thread is about your gripes regarding Edinburghs proposed fare increase, it's not about NTA policy.

The NTA policy is widely known and I think you know what it is......so you tell me.

Now, while were completely off topic, can you tell me how the public are better off in 'delimited' areas as opposed to 'regulated' ones.

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no Dougie

the investment in a pilots training which is normally paid for buy airline sponsorship or pay for it yourself around £40k

this is an investment in himself.
similarity but to a far lesser extent, the topo test for a taxi drivers license.
which buy the way cost more than the pilots license! go figure :roll:

once qualified the authority(caa) issue him/her with a license at the cost of admin and medical.not £40k.
similarly with a taxi brief

with the taxi operators licenses you don't need any training nor do you even have to be a taxi driver.

you seem to be getting confused with real investment and illusionary ones.
investment in ones training and investment in equipment.

not investment in a license to do the job
you cant really compare the taxi trade plate value to any other business because it just doesn't happen in any other business :wink: Christ i can get a casino license for less than the admin fee for a plate

at no point does the ludicrous situation arise for the newly qualified pilot that he has to go to another qualified pilot and pay him £40k to allow him to fly.


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ALI T wrote:
no Dougie
the investment in a pilots training which is normally paid for buy airline sponsorship or pay for it yourself around £40k


Ryanair cabin staff have to repay their training fees to the company.......Stagecoach drivers have to sign a contract to stay with the company for a period, or they are liable for the cost of training.

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ALI T wrote:
no Dougie

the investment in a pilots training which is normally paid for buy airline sponsorship or pay for it yourself around £40k

this is an investment in himself.
similarity but to a far lesser extent, the topo test for a taxi drivers license.
which buy the way cost more than the pilots license! go figure :roll:

once qualified the authority(caa) issue him/her with a license at the cost of admin and medical.not £40k.
similarly with a taxi brief

with the taxi operators licenses you don't need any training nor do you even have to be a taxi driver.

you seem to be getting confused with real investment and illusionary ones.
investment in ones training and investment in equipment.

not investment in a license to do the job
you cant really compare the taxi trade plate value to any other business because it just doesn't happen in any other business :wink: Christ i can get a casino license for less than the admin fee for a plate

at no point does the ludicrous situation arise for the newly qualified pilot that he has to go to another qualified pilot to allow him to fly.

Unless he's renting the other pilots plane :D

That's my point Ali the Taxi trade needs regulation other trades may not need to our extent. There's only so many taxi's that can operate pro rata of size of city they operate, every city/town has different needs thats why the mass majority accept survey's of demand :wink: There is no limit to how many planes that can operate out of an airport, is there?

It's only a very small minority who want to screw the SYSTEM, you know the kind, extreme right wing!!! Normally baldy headed men with nothing better to do, i could think of three who's surnames all start with the letter T :D

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oh btw
if you can afford a taxi license you can afford the training for a pilots license.

and once you have either your ppl, cpl, or atpl then you can go buy a plane an investment in equipment.

at no point are you asked to part with huge amounts of cash for a piece of paper/plastic.

do you see the difference dougie.

the investment in training is real for taxi's or pilot

the investment in equipment is real for taxi or pilot

the investment in the piece of paper from the licensing authority to prove your licensed/approved to do the job is only worth the admin fee for the pilots license

where as the taxi driver has to fork out £40k is an illusion.and has no value true value


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captain cab wrote:
ALI T wrote:
no Dougie
the investment in a pilots training which is normally paid for buy airline sponsorship or pay for it yourself around £40k


Ryanair cabin staff have to repay their training fees to the company.......Stagecoach drivers have to sign a contract to stay with the company for a period, or they are liable for the cost of training.

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does it matter who pays for the training ?

the point is training for any qualification is an investment in oneself.


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Private Reggie wrote:
Unless he's renting the other pilots plane :D

That's my point Ali the Taxi trade needs regulation other trades may not need to our extent. There's only so many taxi's that can operate pro rata of size of city they operate, every city/town has different needs thats why the mass majority accept survey's of demand :wink: There is no limit to how many planes that can operate out of an airport, is there?

It's only a very small minority who want to screw the SYSTEM, you know the kind, extreme right wing!!! Normally baldy headed men with nothing better to do, i could think of three who's surnames all start with the letter T :D

or he could buy his own plane
or buy the other pilots plane.
but if you transferred the taxi model to the your pilot model then not only would the new(pilot a)have to pay the market value for the plane say £10 million to the pilot who owns the plane(pilot b)
but pilot a would also have to pay pilot b a further £12.5 million.for the use of pilot a's license! his own feckin license :lol: :lol: :lol:

its madness

you really are clutching at straws here Dougie
you suggest that the taxi trade need more regulation than the airlines your having a bath. :roll:
you totally contradict yourself in the above

Dougie i will screw this system over and over again because i can.
and the reason i can is because the courts and the legislation say i can.
you need look no further than that to see whats right and whats wrong


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right wing :lol:

what you mean like the snp :lol:

mc kaskil is a moron Dougie,most politicians are.

we live in times where most ppl know this. :wink:


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just so we're clear Dougie the system always screws you!
as long as you want to be in the system.
I've been out of the system for many years now and i have to say its blooming marvelous fun :wink:


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captain cab wrote:
Jasbar wrote:

But you will still not say what the NTA's policy is towards restriction. Why so coy?


Well basically, this is the Scottish Section and the thread is about your gripes regarding Edinburghs proposed fare increase, it's not about NTA policy.

The NTA policy is widely known and I think you know what it is......so you tell me.

Now, while were completely off topic, can you tell me how the public are better off in 'delimited' areas as opposed to 'regulated' ones.

CC


You're being uncommonly coy Wayne.

Forget this is the Scottish Section. Tell us all. What is the NTA's position on restriction. We're a;; agog with your explanation. You can explain it, ca n't you? Of course you can.

The stage is yours.

As I said, we're all agog ....

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ALI T wrote:
no Dougie

the investment in a pilots training which is normally paid for buy airline sponsorship or pay for it yourself around £40k

this is an investment in himself.
similarity but to a far lesser extent, the topo test for a taxi drivers license.
which buy the way cost more than the pilots license! go figure :roll:

once qualified the authority(caa) issue him/her with a license at the cost of admin and medical.not £40k.
similarly with a taxi brief

with the taxi operators licenses you don't need any training nor do you even have to be a taxi driver.

you seem to be getting confused with real investment and illusionary ones.
investment in ones training and investment in equipment.

not investment in a license to do the job
you cant really compare the taxi trade plate value to any other business because it just doesn't happen in any other business :wink: Christ i can get a casino license for less than the admin fee for a plate

at no point does the ludicrous situation arise for the newly qualified pilot that he has to go to another qualified pilot to allow him to fly.

Unless he's renting the other pilots plane :D

That's my point Ali the Taxi trade needs regulation other trades may not need to our extent. There's only so many taxi's that can operate pro rata of size of city they operate, every city/town has different needs thats why the mass majority accept survey's of demand :wink: There is no limit to how many planes that can operate out of an airport, is there?

It's only a very small minority who want to screw the SYSTEM, you know the kind, extreme right wing!!! Normally baldy headed men with nothing better to do, i could think of three who's surnames all start with the letter T :D


Dougie, Dougie, do we detect a wee hint of desperation?

Pilots have quality controls end of.

Taxis restrict the vehicles not the operators.

It's that simple Dougie.

I want to be like the pilots. I want to invest the quality in the drivers.

And that would ensure that the Dougies of this world, whose brains consist of scrambled eggs and mince, wouldn't be allowed to walk down the street of confusion that is taxi ownership.

I'm doing you a favour Dougie. Honestly!!! :lol:

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De restriction does not work,Dundee is a good example, we have a private hire problem that did not exist before the town was opened.And just the same number of hire plates as before.


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we have a private hire problem that did not exist before the town was opened.


Be fair Tone, this is caused by a perverse WAV policy and lack of enforcement. Restricted or not, this would still have happened.

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The NTA policy is on here somewhere, it actual fact the NTA response to the OFT report is somewhere, knock yourself out, go find it.

Although Im pretty certain it's in favour of survey driven regulation.

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