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Stationtone
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At a meeting with the STF Bill McIntosh made a point of telling the members that if they did not make an attempt to get a good percentage of wavs on in there areas then they would be made to comply.
Dundee have said at a meeting on Thursday that they will leave the government to decide if all taxis are to be wavs but i think they have said this because we have a large number of wavs.
I think if there are going to keep a mixed fleet then there should be financial incentives for the wav operators.
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Your Entitled to differ...Its your right to do so...indeed it one of the few freedoms we have left to us.

Im sure all of us are interested to varying degrees..but this Goverment will trample on their views no matter how organised an association people may form.

the Goverment has become as undemocratic as is possible under a so called democracy..out of touch with the grass roots, yes we have freedom of speech to an extent, but that same freedom does not sway a modern UK government from doing its own thing.

Its not all of the Equality Bill I dislike, its having it forced down peoples throats without genuine consultation through a neutral body that may have taken on board how it affects the very people that are protected by it and also how it will impact on those people who supply the services that these vulnerable people need.

As for UKIP or the BNP...not my suggestions, but i can see some good points in UKIP..but then I can see one or Two good points in every Political party, sadly though its never all of the good points in any one single party. :wink:


I tend to disagree, but then again, I am getting towards being a grumpy old man.

The country gets the political leadership it deserves, there too many people (in our case its the majority of the country), prepared to sit back and watch things happen.

I dont exactly like the French.....but can you imagine a French government getting away with what this lot have?

CC


Well then...we dont disagree, its time we took a more robust to those that govern us, thats 2 of the popluation..now if we can fire up the other 59,853,298 of the Population we might just get something done :lol:
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Harvested...... now that's an interesting conception...... I might as well just lie down and give up the will to live.. and when I eventually die, oh what an example my children will have been given .....Fu*k that for a game of soldiers .... I think I will just make my MP's life hell...... wouldn't it be interesting if people voted for MPs that didn't belong to a party.... that would set the cat amongst the pigeons..... :roll:

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wouldn't it be interesting if people voted for MPs that didn't belong to a party.... that would set the cat amongst the pigeons..... :roll:


I think that would just lead to more corruption within politics. If big parties had to rely on independance to get their policy's through, well what incentives would be offered to these independants to "encourage" then to vote a certain way by either another political party or an outside "interested party".

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Which leaves those areas with a majority of vehicles that are saloon.

They are not interested either, indeed if they were they would join either an association or a union, but they arent.

So the act will go through.

I suspect they will be interested when it's all done and dusted, but the likes of me that are interested, and supportive of the amendment, have the joyous time ahead when the amendment suddenly dawns on those that will not like it, but can do f*** all about it.

So if anyone comes down to Sussex and see a driver with the biggest smile you ever saw, then give me a wave. :D

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Which leaves those areas with a majority of vehicles that are saloon.

They are not interested either, indeed if they were they would join either an association or a union, but they arent.

So the act will go through.

I suspect they will be interested when it's all done and dusted, but the likes of me that are interested, and supportive of the amendment, have the joyous time ahead when the amendment suddenly dawns on those that will not like it, but can do f*** all about it.

So if anyone comes down to Sussex and see a driver with the biggest smile you ever saw, then give me a wave. :D


I shouldnt get overly happy, I to am Joyous abou the Amendment...but just as you settle contentedly into the coastal Kingdom of Smugdom, along shall come the Government or the EU with something new to turn your and my world upside down..It maybe a crushing green stealth Tax or a Pitiful limit to how many hours you can drive in your effort to earn a crust. But, come it will..this lot have not even started making things harder yet.. :wink:
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Makes note...I must get new keyboard or learn to type.. :?
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It will not make the slightest bit of difference here in Winchester, (80 wav's, 49 saloons), no limit except quality control.... where per 1000 population we should only have 65 Hackneys!!!
Winchester C.C. wants to keep a mixed fleet so the saloon fraternity will be the real winners, so here the minority have won!!
The damage has been done so no smiles :cry: :x
What's the situation for Sussex, Captain Cab, and you other guys?
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What's the situation for Sussex, Captain Cab, and you other guys?


We are 100% WAV for taxis with a population of around 311,000. The taxis tend to work only 2 areas of the Wirral (which will expain the unmet demand). Not sure of the exact number of taxi plates out but I have seen them numbered upto 400 but I don't think they are all being used (if that makes sense). We have upwards of 2000 private hire and all private hire systems have taxis working on them

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What's the situation for Sussex, Captain Cab, and you other guys?


We are 100% WAV for taxis with a population of around 311,000. The taxis tend to work only 2 areas of the Wirral (which will expain the unmet demand). Not sure of the exact number of taxi plates out but I have seen them numbered upto 400 but I don't think they are all being used (if that makes sense). We have upwards of 2000 private hire and all private hire systems have taxis working on them


So it maybe that you will see an increase in more wav's?.....As you are PH it isn't going to make any difference to the number of PH you have there, but it seems to me you are experiencing over saturation to?..... eusasmiles.zip
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So it maybe that you will see an increase in more wav's?.....As you are PH it isn't going to make any difference to the number of PH you have there, but it seems to me you are experiencing over saturation to?..... eusasmiles.zip


I dont think toots wants more WAV's......they all end up on her radio circuit.

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At a meeting with the STF Bill McIntosh made a point of telling the members that if they did not make an attempt to get a good percentage of wavs on in there areas then they would be made to comply.
Dundee have said at a meeting on Thursday that they will leave the government to decide if all taxis are to be wavs but i think they have said this because we have a large number of wavs.
I think if there are going to keep a mixed fleet then there should be financial incentives for the wav operators.


How long are wav drivers able to keep their vehicles in your area?

Winchester allow 10 years on wav non Hackney spec with Hackney spec no limit if in good condition....
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It will not make the slightest bit of difference here in Winchester, (80 wav's, 49 saloons), no limit except quality control.... where per 1000 population we should only have 65 Hackneys!!!
Winchester C.C. wants to keep a mixed fleet so the saloon fraternity will be the real winners, so here the minority have won!!
The damage has been done so no smiles :cry: :x
What's the situation for Sussex, Captain Cab, and you other guys?


The DFT havent told anyone what the ratio will be for a mixed fleet.

Our LA seem intent on retaining saloon vehicles, even though historically they made the original 33 go down the FX4 route back in 1982........they changed this and allowed saloons on again in 1995......which basically completely f*cked the City because everyone from PH bought saloons that met the criteria and became HC........they then went WAV only on new licenses in 2007.

We now sit with about 200 licensed vehicles which are a 50/50 mix of saloon and WAV.

Of course, the playing field it totally unfair upon WAV owners, those vehicles cost more to operate, purchase, insure and maintain.

It'll be interesting if the DFT come up with 75/25 ratio in favour of WAV's.........because that would mean were were very short indeed!

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What's the situation for Sussex, Captain Cab, and you other guys?


We are 100% WAV for taxis with a population of around 311,000. The taxis tend to work only 2 areas of the Wirral (which will expain the unmet demand). Not sure of the exact number of taxi plates out but I have seen them numbered upto 400 but I don't think they are all being used (if that makes sense). We have upwards of 2000 private hire and all private hire systems have taxis working on them


So it maybe that you will see an increase in more wav's?.....As you are PH it isn't going to make any difference to the number of PH you have there, but it seems to me you are experiencing over saturation to?..... eusasmiles.zip


Why would we see anymore WAV's than is already here? We have no limits on the taxis so the Equality Bill will have no effect at all on us. It's a shame the bill isn't about making things equal for ALL passengers with a mixed fleet option :wink:

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The DFT havent told anyone what the ratio will be for a mixed fleet.

Our LA seem intent on retaining saloon vehicles, even though historically they made the original 33 go down the FX4 route back in 1982........they changed this and allowed saloons on again in 1995......which basically completely f*cked the City because everyone from PH bought saloons that met the criteria and became HC........they then went WAV only on new licenses in 2007.

We now sit with about 200 licensed vehicles which are a 50/50 mix of saloon and WAV.

Of course, the playing field it totally unfair upon WAV owners, those vehicles cost more to operate, purchase, insure and maintain.

It'll be interesting if the DFT come up with 75/25 ratio in favour of WAV's.........because that would mean were were very short indeed!

CC


So It would seem that 50/50 would be a good result for your area....
I can't see the DFT ruling against saloons, or would it be that they may have to "upgrade" to a wav on next purchase?
Here we are more than well supplied with wav's, stupid as though that might be, I seldom do any punter's in wheelchair's, once a year at most.... But at least I can keep my vehicle ad infinitum, my last one went 15 years....
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