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ALI T wrote:
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The Question is:

Should there be a difference in fees for single plate holders to that of Multi plate holders?

I've outlined in a previous post how this would be done.

DOUBLING THE FEES PER PLATE WIPES OUT MULTI PLATE HOLDING :wink:


Nut job! :roll:

yeah! i can certainly see the salesman in Dougie,could he be any more caught up in his own spin,i bet he knew nothing about the products he used to sell either but it didn't stop the program from running. :wink:


I feel dizzy just looking at what he writes. 8-[

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ALI T wrote:
Skull wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
The Question is:

Should there be a difference in fees for single plate holders to that of Multi plate holders?

I've outlined in a previous post how this would be done.

DOUBLING THE FEES PER PLATE WIPES OUT MULTI PLATE HOLDING :wink:


Nut job! :roll:

yeah! i can certainly see the salesman in Dougie,could he be any more caught up in his own spin,i bet he knew nothing about the products he used to sell either but it didn't stop the program from running. :wink:

Product sells it's self i sold the service :lol: :lol:

C'mon the game should be restricted/regulated and about the individual :wink:

The game is what it is and no doubt a bit of a mess but it's here NOW, there is no going back :wink: My idea protects the individual but screws the Multi plate holders who hold more than 4 plates, it's the way to go :wink: My idea is already being considered and at the highest LEVEL :D

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My idea is already being considered and at the highest LEVEL

What ! you sitting in the Castle car park having a bacon roll ?? :D


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Private Reggie wrote:
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People are buying and selling Public Licence on the open market through de facto transfers. The Civic Government Scotland Act, 1982, strictly forbids the sale, and or transfer of a public licence. It is the council that permits the incorporation of a licence, facilitating this trade. This is why the C.E.C. won't admit they have knowledge of said trade in public property. One thing is for sure, now the black market trade in plates has been exposed, it won't be allowed to continue. An investigation is being called for, and you know what that means. ..

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I detect your stunned by my response :D If you think we got it bad just wait and see how bad The PHC are going to get it :lol: The PHC have been openly working this way for years, ECPH must own hundreds of PHC plates :lol: ENSLAVEMENT at it's worst :lol: :lol:

The leasing of something to trade is not unique, i could buy a lease for a pub, shop or a TAXI :lol: if i then sell that lease on you muppet for profit then it's job done, this is the economic world we live in you empty piece of self filled sh-t, it's called capitalism :wink:

If you want a way that is fair and without discrimination to wipe out multi ownership of the right to use Taxi and PHC licences then Double the cost!!! per licence :shock: First plate £1,500 2nd plate £3,000 3rd plate plate £6,000, so if a company holding say 10 plates, the tenth plate would cost them nearly a million pounds. If that's a topper then per plate again Local authorities could charge incorporated multi plate holders double for their annual inspection, first plate £205 2nd plate£410 3rd plate £820, Nearly £200,000 grand. This i believe wipes out Multi plate holding of Taxi and Phc licences :D :D

Sweet Dreams SKULL :wink:


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You need certified.

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Private Reggie wrote:
The Question is:

Should there be a difference in fees for single plate holders to that of Multi plate holders?

I've outlined in a previous post how this would be done.

DOUBLING THE FEES PER PLATE WIPES OUT MULTI PLATE HOLDING :wink:


No Duggie

The question is why drivers are being denied unfettered access to the tools of their trade.

Another question is, will the council see sense BEFORE another wee lassie gets assaulted or even murdered.

Doesn't get more simple than that.

A council can't claim they have done everything to ensure public safety unless and until they have done everything to ensure public safety.

Restricting licences, creating an artificial shortage, which makes it more difficult to hail a cab than it could be, falls well below this standard.

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Dougie
no one knows what your on about,its a dream of yours that has no foundation in the real world,further more every idea/proposal of yours is to the detriment of any one who operates differently than you .
I'm all right jack,feck you lot
are you envious of those that appear to have more than you ????

i have never heard a more selfish, self absorb point of view from any individual on these forums or any taxi driver.


if in doubt Dougie go look at fast blacks you cant even gain support from those blinkered idiots

your ideas are self absorbed fascist tripe


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ALI T wrote:
Dougie
no one knows what your on about,its a dream of yours that has no foundation in the real world,further more every idea/proposal of yours is to the detriment of any one who operates differently than you .
I'm all right jack,feck you lot
are you envious of those that appear to have more than you ????

i have never heard a more selfish, self absorb point of view from any individual on these forums or any taxi driver.


if in doubt Dougie go look at fast blacks you cant even gain support from those blinkered idiots

your ideas are self absorbed fascist tripe


Don't hold back Ali, Why don't you just tell them what you really think :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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ALI T wrote:
Dougie
no one knows what your on about,its a dream of yours that has no foundation in the real world,further more every idea/proposal of yours is to the detriment of any one who operates differently than you .
I'm all right jack,feck you lot
are you envious of those that appear to have more than you ????

i have never heard a more selfish, self absorb point of view from any individual on these forums or any taxi driver.


if in doubt Dougie go look at fast blacks you cant even gain support from those blinkered idiots

your ideas are self absorbed fascist tripe

You would agree that the Majority of plate holders in Edinburgh are individual!!! would you not?

I'm about the Individual "yes" the Majority :wink:

My idea doesn't affect the guy who operates 2 or 3 plates although they will pay a bit extra, 2 for the price of 3 but from 4 upwards it gets much more expensive and up to 10 it's virtually impossible to operate 10 licences as one company, This way protects the single plate holder and offers many more individuals the right to operate a Taxi or PHC licence and hopefully will be embraced by the regulators of our TRADE :D

I think it's fair that multi plate operators pay more in fees than single plate operaters? Surely its simple arithmatic to say Multi plate operators take massivley more profit out of the trade than single plate holders therefore Multi plate holders such as ECPH should pay more :)

Now if you still think i'm about myself?

I think the fact you isolated yourself from our trade shows you as someone who will say anything about me to keep in with your two other amigos, the 3 loners, get yourself on Britain s got talent :lol: :lol: :lol:

I would like to hear Waynes opinion on this one!!!

I see it working, what do you think?

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yeah! i sort of understood it the first time you spouted it.
its garbage plain and simple.

oh and btw Dougie you cant isolate yourself from a non entity.
the trade as you put it, is nothing but a fanciful wet dream by weak individuals who need emotional attachment to something that does not exist.
truth is Dougie we are all alone you think otherwise at your own peril.


in short you need to belong,to something,whether that be football,a job a a certain section of society whatever it may be.
the point being is that without these things most go mad, my bet is you do all of the above the fitba,the job i bet your even a member of the local bowling club and the snp.

and yet strangely enough despite you doing all that, your still completely off your trolley. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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ill make it simple dougie as far as the legislation is concerned it has nothing to do with morals its a legal argument.

no ones on here trying to punt there version of utopia.

and if they are :wink: then im sure they know fine and well that it is, just that,a dream.
you! on the other hand seem to think that your utopia (and it is only yours) is a functioning part of the real world.

ipso facto your a lune :lol: :lol:


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Think about it this way Dougie, a consensus in self interest, would unite the trade.

Take lawyers, for instance. They might all hate and compete with each other, but they are all educated enough to agree as to what servers their interests.

They control their own destiny because they take control for themselves, to serve their own interests, as a group and as individuals.

The council control the trade, they operate the projector that creates your little illusion. We don't take control for ourselves. We give it away, apologize, make excuses, and then we ask permission to breathe, tug forelock, and pay for the privilege.


Your empire is a job Dougie, and truth be told, not a very good one. Everything else is a figment of your imagination, and that's what you are so desperate to hang on to.

nae luck Dougie :roll: :roll: :roll: the plug is about to be pulled on your little illusion. :shock:

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I wonder who put James Douglas up to this one? another poor dig at the black cab trade, never heard of this journalist before must be a wannabe serious writer,in typical NOTW style :lol:

What JC has done is not a CRIME, He has not BENT ANY RULES (JD) What JC has done is amassed in my opinion to many Licences LEGALLY. This was alway's going to happen as has happened with ECPH :shock: :shock: Remember some of their owners where saying ECPH wanted control of their licences and how many private hire plates do ECPH (Directors) hold collectively? Charging their drivers 50/50 and openly promoting the idea of paying their drivers a wage, is this the same or worse the JC i fear much worse :shock:

Edinburgh is a different market to Glasgow and what goes on in Glasgow is a million miles from what goes on in Edinburgh. Its known that Glasgow is in the top 5% of most corrupt cities in the world, i wonder how many Glasgow licence holders where put under pressure to transfer their licences? Although i know JC and don't think for a minute John has done any wrong, John has made his money selling TAXI's in Glasgow and Edinburgh including my Metro, Knowing John he has probably helped out many licence holders who have had financial troubles as many cabbies
do, finance on a new Taxi is not cheap its a massive commitment.

The situation in Edinburgh i agree the usage of the plate is changing hands for around £40k but it's legal and i don't know of any one owning as many as in Glasgow. For JD to compare the black cab trade to the Private hire and say the PHC fares better is niave. Black cab drivers study the knowledge and go through all checks to gain the right to operate a black cab, professional drivers in all aspects of serving the public.

In a De-restricted/De-limited world the same problem would arise but a lot worse, the Trade would be fully open to all kinds of criminal gangs. Tighter restriction/regulation is what is required to sort out any kind of mass ownership of usage of Taxi licences.

The alternative is the council like NEW YORK ask for a change in law and Charge a New licence fee granted charge of £40k, if you can't beat them join them :wink: There is currently no laws being broken :wink:

NEW YORK NEW YORK :D :D
show me the facts on this statement please!


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Think about it this way Dougie, a consensus in self interest, would unite the trade.

Take lawyers, for instance. They might all hate and compete with each other, but they are all educated enough to agree as to what servers their interests.

They control their own destiny because they take control for themselves, to serve their own interests, as a group and as individuals.

The council control the trade, they operate the projector that creates your little illusion. We don't take control for ourselves. We give it away, apologize, make excuses, and then we ask permission to breathe, tug forelock, and pay for the privilege.


Your empire is a job Dougie, and truth be told, not a very good one. Everything else is a figment of your imagination, and that's what you are so desperate to hang on to.

nae luck Dougie :roll: :roll: :roll: the plug is about to be pulled on your little illusion. :shock:

Bad choice skull I hope the taxi trade never gets as corrupt as lawyers, that goes right to the top of the crown office.


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Think about it this way Dougie, a consensus in self interest, would unite the trade.

Take lawyers, for instance. They might all hate and compete with each other, but they are all educated enough to agree as to what servers their interests.

They control their own destiny because they take control for themselves, to serve their own interests, as a group and as individuals.

The council control the trade, they operate the projector that creates your little illusion. We don't take control for ourselves. We give it away, apologize, make excuses, and then we ask permission to breathe, tug forelock, and pay for the privilege.


Your empire is a job Dougie, and truth be told, not a very good one. Everything else is a figment of your imagination, and that's what you are so desperate to hang on to.

nae luck Dougie :roll: :roll: :roll: the plug is about to be pulled on your little illusion. :shock:

Bad choice skull I hope the taxi trade never gets as corrupt as lawyers, that goes right to the top of the crown office.


I agree, but they do know how to protect and enhance their own self interests.

Bad news Jock, the whole of society is corrupt at every level. It's the human condition.



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 Post subject: Re: Black market NOT
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jock1 wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
I wonder who put James Douglas up to this one? another poor dig at the black cab trade, never heard of this journalist before must be a wannabe serious writer,in typical NOTW style :lol:

What JC has done is not a CRIME, He has not BENT ANY RULES (JD) What JC has done is amassed in my opinion to many Licences LEGALLY. This was alway's going to happen as has happened with ECPH :shock: :shock: Remember some of their owners where saying ECPH wanted control of their licences and how many private hire plates do ECPH (Directors) hold collectively? Charging their drivers 50/50 and openly promoting the idea of paying their drivers a wage, is this the same or worse the JC i fear much worse :shock:

Edinburgh is a different market to Glasgow and what goes on in Glasgow is a million miles from what goes on in Edinburgh. Its known that Glasgow is in the top 5% of most corrupt cities in the world, i wonder how many Glasgow licence holders where put under pressure to transfer their licences? Although i know JC and don't think for a minute John has done any wrong, John has made his money selling TAXI's in Glasgow and Edinburgh including my Metro, Knowing John he has probably helped out many licence holders who have had financial troubles as many cabbies
do, finance on a new Taxi is not cheap its a massive commitment.

The situation in Edinburgh i agree the usage of the plate is changing hands for around £40k but it's legal and i don't know of any one owning as many as in Glasgow. For JD to compare the black cab trade to the Private hire and say the PHC fares better is niave. Black cab drivers study the knowledge and go through all checks to gain the right to operate a black cab, professional drivers in all aspects of serving the public.

In a De-restricted/De-limited world the same problem would arise but a lot worse, the Trade would be fully open to all kinds of criminal gangs. Tighter restriction/regulation is what is required to sort out any kind of mass ownership of usage of Taxi licences.

The alternative is the council like NEW YORK ask for a change in law and Charge a New licence fee granted charge of £40k, if you can't beat them join them :wink: There is currently no laws being broken :wink:

NEW YORK NEW YORK :D :D
show me the facts on this statement please!

It was quoted a couple of weeks ago in a Newspaper (can't remember which one, maybe notw) Glasgow came out in the top 5% for Orginised crime of which includes all crimes including corruption.

Jock i'm out to keep the Taxi Trade as individual as possible, Multi Plate holding and De-limitation would take our Trade out of our hands, multi plate holding companies would spring up in every city, driving the standards down so far that well the old saying is, the meek shall inherit the earth (the meek shall inherit our trade and be enslaved by the likes of ECPH) It's already here especially in Glasgow and growing in Edinburgh.

Our prioroty is to keep the Trade INDIVIDUAL

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