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 Post subject: The "B" Agenda
PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:34 pm 
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THE "B" AGENDA

The council position

This is ostensibly created by the council to protect the rights of those who are brought before the committee. They are being accorded anonymity so that the innocent are protected.

The reality.

The single biggest instrument of control in the process is the use of the "B" Agenda.

By being placed on the "B" Agenda the signal is deliberately sent out to the alleged miscreant is that he should feel some shame, his mindset is being manipulated that he has indeed fallen foul of the rules and he needs to be dealt with. His misdemeanour is therefore fixed in his mind and he is on the backfoot. Initial reaction is usually to seek expensive legal help to aid him through the process.

However, the truth is the "B" Agenda doesn't protect licence holders, it protects the council. Because the secrecy allows the councillors on the kangaroo court to conduct themselves as they see fit, in the full and certain knowledge that no real record of what transpired has been made - the council is notorious for hiding matters in skeleton minutes.

No register of cases is kept, therefore no thresholds exist, no benchmarks and no precedent. There is therefore no means whereby comparisons can be made to prove the integrity of the system, as would happen in a real judicial system. This gives councillors carte blanche and, as we have seen above, they exercise their authority accordinglyin at their whim in a wholly draconian manner.

Take the case of the over officious commissionaire. Why would anyone have to explain such an uncorroborated complaint in the first place, but why would there be any problem in having this matter dealt with in open session?

Who really benefits? The licence holder who has done nothing except deal with a frivolous complaint by a doorman acting beyond his remit? Or councillors who don't want to be stiffing people, taking away livelihoods and treating licence holders as second class citizens in public?

Much easier to do your dirty work in private. Then your lack of professional training, your lack of integrity, your lack of common decency, your officious conduct isn't there for all to see.

This part of the process is like taking licence holders behind the bicycle sheds, duffing them up, taking away his bicycle and then re-emerging with the appearance that you did nothing wrong, smiling and saying, "don't ask". :wink:

The need here is for all cases to be heard publicly, which is good enough for a court of Law.

Then we will be able to record the full actions of these council officials, record each case and hold them to account for their conduct, and for pursuing frivolous complaints thereby creating unnecessary and unwarranted stress for licence holders.

The key is that licences are a right, not the gift of the council. Your Human Rights are a right, not the gift of government.

Councillors are not masters, they are public servants. They exist because we charge them to oversee the process, not abuse it to help their friends while stiffing those whom they dislike or feels superior to.

Time for change.


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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:30 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
The collective opinion of all within our Trade is that there is a higher than normal level of heavy handedness against the Trade, we are professional drivers and should no better!!! How many times have we heard that one, ARGH!!!

WHY? (Jim) that is the question?

This though is the kind of fight Jim, Skull and whoever should be fighting, the Trade should be pulling together, singing from the same hym sheet but as long as certain individuals within our Trade keep HOUNDING the council concerning de-limitation, extra plates ect, well S-IT works both way's.

Jim i know it looks like i'm having a dig but on other matters outwith de-limitation YOU could be good for our trade, i'm thinking though on the de-limitation issue alone you must have killed a few TREES :D I would never say your OFF your TREE but i'm sure someone will :lol:

The old saying what goes around comes around is at work here so maybe it's time you re-assess your strategy :?:

The time is not right just now and in my opinion we should just live with Survey's of demand, let if it goes ahead the planned merger tackle the problem of private hire, times of un-met demand ect, lets see how it goes, if it works the street cars will benefit and hey maybe more plates will come on eventually.

The one thing though is we need to get the hassle from the Police, Council of our back and the only way to do that is be more Professional :wink:


You could be right dougie. Perhaps we should reassess our strategy.

I'm minded to blockade the council with taxis. park 200 motors outside Fetters, close down the airport and block the Waverley ramp.

Thanks dougie you've hit on a cracker.

Come to the Mood rank and I'll give you the details, along with your badge, the official permission to feck authority.

:wink: :lol:

Civil unrest "r" us :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"


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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:57 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
The collective opinion of all within our Trade is that there is a higher than normal level of heavy handedness against the Trade, we are professional drivers and should no better!!! How many times have we heard that one, ARGH!!!

WHY? (Jim) that is the question?

This though is the kind of fight Jim, Skull and whoever should be fighting, the Trade should be pulling together, singing from the same hym sheet but as long as certain individuals within our Trade keep HOUNDING the council concerning de-limitation, extra plates ect, well S-IT works both way's.

Jim i know it looks like i'm having a dig but on other matters outwith de-limitation YOU could be good for our trade, i'm thinking though on the de-limitation issue alone you must have killed a few TREES :D I would never say your OFF your TREE but i'm sure someone will :lol:

The old saying what goes around comes around is at work here so maybe it's time you re-assess your strategy :?:

The time is not right just now and in my opinion we should just live with Survey's of demand, let if it goes ahead the planned merger tackle the problem of private hire, times of un-met demand ect, lets see how it goes, if it works the street cars will benefit and hey maybe more plates will come on eventually.

The one thing though is we need to get the hassle from the Police, Council of our back and the only way to do that is be more Professional :wink:


You could be right dougie. Perhaps we should reassess our strategy.

I'm minded to blockade the council with taxis. park 200 motors outside Fetters, close down the airport and block the Waverley ramp.

Thanks dougie you've hit on a cracker.

Come to the Mood rank and I'll give you the details, along with your badge, the official permission to feck authority.

:wink: :lol:

Civil unrest "r" us :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


No hit them where it hurts block the tram line :lol:
Mind you that bloody bus on rails maybe another nail ib the trad's coffin


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skippy41 wrote:
No hit them where it hurts block the tram line :lol:

They have one tram on show.

Should be another five years till they get it going on the rails. ](*,)

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 11:01 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
No hit them where it hurts block the tram line :lol:

They have one tram on show.

Should be another five years till they get it going on the rails. ](*,)


Qute apt.

The council has gone off the rails. The trams can't even get on them.

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Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"


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i'm minded to buy a ton of fireworks,and make a private booking for mary king's close :lol: :lol:
only joking of course :wink:


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