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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:34 pm 
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People who have got station permits now from those given up were always slagging Station Taxis off before reciving the now spare permits, talk about changing views

[i]For the sake of 'the thinker' the above is a statement from 'Tangoed' ! Now ! Im not the cleverest of people but even I can see that 'Tangoed' is talking about other people getting permits to go in station, after slagging off Station Taxis !!

You're still slagging them off but you're red mad to get back in, even going to the top, but to no avail

The reply above, written by 'the thinker', who I may point out, is also not the cleverest of people, along with several of his previous posts, would suggest that everone that places a post on here is one of the four rebels. Or maybe he's just trying to provoke a reaction and hoping that he stumbles across a rebel in the process !! LOL !! Keep thinking 'the thinker'


Steve, let me explain what I meant, you and you co horts are moaning about Station Taxis, yet you have written direct to East Coast trying to get back in, maybe you have been hypnotised, you are right about me not being clever, I paid good money for my licence never thought of stealing one from a pensioner.Oh and didn't you post earlier about not name calling, you never cease to amaze me.


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This thread is starting to rival the Naughty Scottish Section!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
This thread is starting to rival the Naughty Scottish Section!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Perhaps we sould have a naughty drivers section :wink: :lol: :lol:

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toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
This thread is starting to rival the Naughty Scottish Section!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Perhaps we sould have a naughty drivers section :wink: :lol: :lol:

Now if Admin could tweek that all the naughty drivers could only post in that section for being naughty.

You could have a sentence of say 7, 14 or 28 days for the really heavy stuff. And after that time they would be let back into the Forum.

Those who have not been sentenced could not post in that section; only the naughty drivers, like a sin-bin in ice hockey.

Good idea Ms Toots!!

:D :D :D :D

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Steve, let me explain what I meant, you and you co horts are moaning about Station Taxis, yet you have written direct to East Coast trying to get back in, maybe you have been hypnotised, you are right about me not being clever, I paid good money for my licence never thought of stealing one from a pensioner.Oh and didn't you post earlier about not name calling, you never cease to amaze me.


Let us all get it straight thinker

I wrote to East Coast nobody else and I am old enough and ugly enough to write a e-mail on my own with my own thoughts,
So that has put you right on that score
The e-mail was for East Coast not you or your now best friends Hatfield and co
It refers to Station Taxi's kicking us out before anything was decided on, Station Taxi's will answer for themselves at the right time

As for wanting to go back in I don't know at this stage, but they have the bussiest rank in town during the day, but they also have the most drivers during the day, I have worked on other ranks and with other people and most days not far short of working at the station.

So that bit about want to get back in so much think again thinker, it is of course the principal of being kicked out for following the rules,

Did your new best mate show the bit about station cars ripping three young lasses from Newcastle off, What do you want to say about that.

So lets have it right slagg me off for what I do not other people, you think like some of the others that nobody is allowed to question those who think they run the citys taxis.

I will copy you in to my e-mails to different people so you know exactly what I am doing


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Why email East coast, they no longer run it the Government does, so anyone can work from the station for free when will you get it into your heads and just go work there if they at station towers try to stop you call the police


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skippy41 wrote:
Why email East coast, they no longer run it the Government does, so anyone can work from the station for free when will you get it into your heads and just go work there if they at station towers try to stop you call the police


I keep seeing you give us the advice of just go to the station?

National Express lost the franchise
The Govt set up a company called East Coast Trains who have taken over the franchise and all previous deals,like the one with Station Taxis

So Station Taxi's still have the rights to a private rank in York Station, they are still charging £1500 per year to work there.
They are the one's who will call the police and have anyone put out.

But, There is this unknown EU ruling?,
There is also a possibility of a council rank at the station?
There also are other irons in the fire?

So Station Taxi's might just not have it all their own way
If they had not kicked me out I would not have had the time to look at all posibilities


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skippy41 wrote:
Why email East coast, they no longer run it the Government does, so anyone can work from the station for free when will you get it into your heads and just go work there if they at station towers try to stop you call the police


I keep seeing you give us the advice of just go to the station?


Looks like skips been rumbled :lol:

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"Steve, let me explain what I meant, you and you co horts are moaning about Station Taxis, yet you have written direct to East Coast trying to get back in, maybe you have been hypnotised, you are right about me not being clever, I paid good money for my licence never thought of stealing one from a pensioner.Oh and didn't you post earlier about not name calling, you never cease to amaze me."

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Like I have posted earlier, there seems to be some confusion over my identity, maybe I should change my username !! Keep thinking !!!!

Where in my previous post has a name being called ??

It would appear however that you and your cohorts (yes, thats one word) are sharing private and confidential information, and advertising the fact ! Now thats not clever is it ?

You paid good money for your License !
Im sure the person who received your money thinks its good too !
Hmmm ! Who was the clever one there then ?

Unfortunately alot of people have paid good money for their licenses, but in the same breath, alot have received them legitimately from the council at no cost, earning thousands of pounds in rent over the years, and I applaud them all !
But unfortunately all good things come to an end, the cats have got fat off the cream and now theres only a little milk left in the bowl.

Id be more than peeeed off if id paid good money for something and someone comes along and gets the same thing for nothing, but thats sour grapes not milk.

a loophole has been exploited by plate holders for years, and during that time they have reaped the profits and saved thousands by not providing a vehicle for the license, instead, they insist that the driver paying rent also pays for the vehicle and all its running costs, even at the risk of losing their license, they try to get out of paying for a vehicle by asking the drivers to commit fraud and launder money for them by creating a paper trail i.e. Bank a cheque and give it back in cash !!! Is that right ? Is that MORAL ! and more to the point ! IS IT LEGAL ? I know what it is ! ITS GREED, GREED, GREED !!

The majority of plate owners that rent out, do own the vehicle and do pay the running costs and have done everything by the book, but it is the minority that have exploited the situation and it is their greed and complete lack of respect for the law, council and the guys that have paid 'good money' in rent that have brought this upon themselves.
Some people are screaming 'Theft', 'Its not right', ' its not moral', and of course the old chestnut that you seem to like throwing up ' your robbing a pensioner'. And of course 'the council will de-regulate because of this'.

All scaremongering, thats all it is, maybe to dissuade other rentals from taking similiar action to the famous four, it could well have been alot more than four. But it is these four who are now exploiting the same loophole that some unscrupulous plate owners have exploited for years to feather their nest. Take into account that, off the top of my head, 1 of the famous four has paid over £85,000 in rent over 7 years, 1 has paid over £35,000 in 3 years, and another has paid over £55,000 over 7 years, I hardly think anyone is out of pocket at the end of the day, apart from the rental driver, theres also the rent money earned from previous rental drivers over the years, Id say they have paid good money would'nt you.

Take into account the rent they would have paid over the next 5 years, say £40,000 to £50,000, or over the next 10 years £80,000 to £100,000, not to mention the running costs including insurance and the cost of a probable 3 or 4 vehicles over 10 years, all amounts to a hefty sum dont you think ?

Take into account the current credit crunch, introduction of more plates, the distinct drop in trade, and avin to work more and more hours to make ends meet and maybe you will understand just why the famous four have done what they have done.

You may also take into account that some plate owners have no interest in the drivers and would s**t on them at the drop of a hat just so that they can continue to fuel their greed, reap the profits and feather their nest without ever sitting on a rank themselves. without even owning a Taxi themselves or paying for its maintenance, without working 6/7 days or nights a week, without threat to their marriages or relationships or even their health.

Take all that into account Mr Thinker and tell me after you have thought long and hard that the famous four dont deserve a round of applause for sticking up for themselves and their famillies. They are not the thieves, they do have morals because they refuse to break the law, they are not robbing pensioners and it most certainly is right !

Flippin heck ! is that the time ? I best go do the dishes or I'll be in bother with 'she who must be obeyed'


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Take into account that, off the top of my head, 1 of the famous four has paid over £85,000 in rent over 7 years, 1 has paid over £35,000 in 3 years, and another has paid over £55,000 over 7 years,
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If they had given it some thought, they could have purchased one for a quarter of that price and saved themselves thousands, thats why it pays to be a thinker


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Steve, let me explain what I meant, you and you co horts are moaning about Station Taxis, yet you have written direct to East Coast trying to get back in, maybe you have been hypnotised, you are right about me not being clever, I paid good money for my licence never thought of stealing one from a pensioner.Oh and didn't you post earlier about not name calling, you never cease to amaze me.


Let us all get it straight thinker

I wrote to East Coast nobody else and I am old enough and ugly enough to write a e-mail on my own with my own thoughts,
So that has put you right on that score
The e-mail was for East Coast not you or your now best friends Hatfield and co
It refers to Station Taxi's kicking us out before anything was decided on, Station Taxi's will answer for themselves at the right time

As for wanting to go back in I don't know at this stage, but they have the bussiest rank in town during the day, but they also have the most drivers during the day, I have worked on other ranks and with other people and most days not far short of working at the station.

So that bit about want to get back in so much think again thinker, it is of course the principal of being kicked out for following the rules,

Did your new best mate show the bit about station cars ripping three young lasses from Newcastle off, What do you want to say about that.

So lets have it right slagg me off for what I do not other people, you think like some of the others that nobody is allowed to question those who think they run the citys taxis.

I will copy you in to my e-mails to different people so you know exactly what I am doing


Please accept my apologies, I was informed that there had been two letters to East Coast, and I mistakenly believed that one of the other parties had written when in fact both communications were from you,


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Thats the trouble with Hacks, they all take life far too serious, lets look at this problem laterally

The person who originally bought the Licence has had his money back in rent so he has lost nothing.
The person claiming the licence has paid for it via rent so he now gets a free ride having paid more than the original buyer so in the long run both will have paid out and both will have got their money back, Simples
Oh and in another 50 years we will all be dead and it won't matter, come on guys live and let live.


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Well said 'Happy Cab' ! Finally the penny is starting to drop, and Alan ! Only 2 of the 4 will be appealing to station Taxis regarding permits, the reason being that they paid for the permit themselves, along with rent, vehicle and maintainence. The prvious plate owner paid for the permits on the other 2 claims. and as there is plenty work outside of the station the other 2 see no reason to appeal for a permit, especially when the station will be open to all hackneys in due course.


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Please accept my apologies, I was informed that there had been two letters to East Coast, and I mistakenly believed that one of the other parties had written when in fact both communications were from you,[/quote]

Wate of time an apology as we both know you do not mean it?

There were two e-mails to East Coast,(they got the second one as they did not answer the first one)
The E-mail were
Not for Station Taxi's (mr Hatfield and anyone else he wants to gossip with while holding up the rank moving forward)
Not for Hackney Drivers plate owners, river wideners and anything else Association

These were private e-mails from me to another company, they decided to pass these e-mails on to the crazy gang, You have then used that info on a public forum

As I have said I will not be kept quiet by the people who think they run all Hackney's in York, they don't some of us are independant and we will work where and when we can, if not at the station so be it, as it was the principle and not my dying wish to work under the rules of people who have decided that they know what is best for everyone else.


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