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 Post subject: Priority Swivel seats ?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:30 am 
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Location: beverley east yorkshire
Last year our L.A. Introduced a requirement for all new requistration Hackney vehicles.
To be fitted with a swivel or Priority seat that must be of a certain manufacturer ???.

This happened after a so called consultation to the trade very one sided

The main concern with this type of seat that driver's consider Not fit for purpose is the saftey firstly The LA recommed purchasing a car with a High Nencap rating then insist we fit this seat that looks like i made it in me garage taking out the original air bag system for the seat.

We have letters from both Ford And Skoda saying dont do it and your waranty will be invalid

What if (god forbid) a swivel seat car has a really bad accident the passenger injuries leave him a cabbage for the rest of his life
And the driver is sued for taking out the airbag system on the seat.

My question is how many LA insist on the seat and any feedback on this situation

Regards BIG TREV :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:41 pm 
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Right Trev, get Vosa involved, they can over ride any stupid council.
Go to your testing station and ask the tester to get in touch with them to come down and inspect the seats, let them see the letters
What council is this???


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 Post subject: Priority Swivel seats ?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:45 pm 
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The council concerned is

EAST RIDING :roll: :roll:


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To fit a swivel seat the front air bag has to be deactivated.

Is that a good thing for punters and drivers?

The car's warranty is also void as the front seats often have all types of electrics either in them or underneath them.

Is that a good thing for punters and drivers?

Has any swivel seat ever been tested by Thatcham?

In short only councils that have no idea about these things, yet go along on a PC crusade, mandate drivers to fit these bloody things.

The question I will ask however is what representation was made to councillors before the decision was made? :?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:00 pm 
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I think I would be writing to the licensing team... and the council's legal department.... I would be pointing out that through this condition of licence that has been imposed... it leaves you in the position of invalidating the factory guarantee on your vehicle while at the same time removing a major safety item and strongly places a question of whether your insurance would be valid due to the modification ...... and as this is through their actions... would they please supply you with a copy of their insurance that will cover mechanical defects relating to the car and personal injury cover for disabled passengers that you might be carrying. and also cover for able body people that might suffer injury due to the airbag being removed.... remind them they have a duty of care.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:17 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
To fit a swivel seat the front air bag has to be deactivated.

Is that a good thing for punters and drivers?

The car's warranty is also void as the front seats often have all types of electrics either in them or underneath them.

Is that a good thing for punters and drivers?

Has any swivel seat ever been tested by Thatcham?

In short only councils that have no idea about these things, yet go along on a PC crusade, mandate drivers to fit these bloody things.

The question I will ask however is what representation was made to councillors before the decision was made? :?


Dont forget the seat belt tensioners, they only designed to work with the factory fitted seats


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Elap Mobility have secured a number of framework contracts to ensure accessible taxi services across a number of local councils. Elap are the preferred mobility adaptation for many taxi drivers as our swivel seat solution allows more people to enjoy taxi services. As such Elap have worked along side a number of local councils to develop a programme to manage the fitting and servicing of our swivel seats to taxi vehicles.

To find out more please download the following PDF detailing our response to the Government Taxi Guidelines.



http://www.elap.co.uk/

http://www.elap.co.uk/Brochures/TaxiResp.pdf


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Seems about Right....A bunch of Meddling Voodoo LA Mischief makers thinking they no more about Passenger safety than Motor Manufacturers who spend billions on passenger safety research and development do....DOH!!!!

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bloodnock wrote:
Seems about Right....A bunch of Meddling Voodoo LA Mischief makers thinking they no more about Passenger safety than Motor Manufacturers who spend billions on passenger safety research and development do....DOH!!!!

](*,)


Worse still certain LAs wont plate £25K VW 9 seaters cos access to the back row is past a tipping seat, but LAs know best


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wannabeeahack wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Seems about Right....A bunch of Meddling Voodoo LA Mischief makers thinking they no more about Passenger safety than Motor Manufacturers who spend billions on passenger safety research and development do....DOH!!!!

](*,)


Worse still certain LAs wont plate £25K VW 9 seaters cos access to the back row is past a tipping seat, but LAs know best


what differance does it make that it Tips...once down it locks into place and if it is tipped up then its no worse than no seat being there at all...... :-k


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