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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:30 pm 
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In fact, under Scottish law, an arrested person can be held without charge for up to 6 hours. After this time, they must be either charged or released.
During this time, they can be questioned at length and have no right to legal representation. They only have the right to a solicitor after they have been charged.

Scottish police employ a tactic, known to the cops as "the volley", to extend this period.
This involves the suspect being asked to attend the police station and be questioned. It is not always apparent to the suspect that they are not under arrest.
In effect, they are there voluntarily and the 6 hour period doesn't begin until they ask to leave and are then arrested. :wink:

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Jasbar wrote:
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One down, one to go :lol: :lol:
Spoke to a very respected councilor the other night at a lodge meeting and apparently you are going to make advances to a female passenger next week :D they are just waiting for her complaint :lol:


The sad thing is that if this did happen, you would see it as a kind of victory. The abuse of power wouldn't bother, you, because you think it doesn't involve you.

What part of **** Germany and the Holocaust didn't you understand.

Garry is right to say that this isn't about him. he was never going to kneel before od.

This is about YOU. Keir and the turkey need you to be subservient. They need to demonstrate their power to stop you lot getting out of control.

And by exercising their power in an unreasonable way, and taking draconian measures, they control you.

This is how it has always been.

Except the niggler in the woodpile is that Human Rights now comes into play.

The Act states "In particular, the Act makes it unlawful for any public body to act in a way which is incompatible with the Convention, unless the wording of an Act of Parliament means they have no other choice."

This may be what the council is relying on, they will claim they have to enforce the CGSA, it's the only Act they've got to work to, and the HRA gives them an out.

Except what they do within their process is not stipulated by the Act. It's their interpretation of it. And they don't have to do any of what they do. It's their choice.

And they have deliberately chosen to ignore any discussion about Human Rights.

Well if the HRA was irrelevant authorities would be winning their cases hands down. But they aren't.

The sad thing is that the scumbag Keir will be off into the sunset by then. Not responsible for the decision he made to breach Human Rights. Except through legal suit of course. But that's a groundbreaking matter for later.

Then there's the council solicitors, who are clearly out of control. They'll avoid any penalty because they'll close ranks, the council and its taxpayers will foot the large bill and once again the Executive, Sue Bruce, and the political machine will refuse and fail to hold them to account.

Then they'll do it all again and some other scrote will have his rights breached. It may be you saf :lol:

So really it's one down and the rest of you to go.

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BTW Don't be shy, tell us all who this "respected" councillor is who feels justified in abusing the system and his position to dig me out?

Too shy, then please tell him to bring it on. I know full well that I will become embroiled in this process. Because I am embarrassing the council and the turkey for their short-comings.

However, it just makes the problem bigger. Much bigger.

And, one political dig out you can explain, two becomes more than a co-incidence. I can't wait for this case to come to the Court of Session, me bringing a second would be a hoot.

Here's laughing at you saf. Feel your fear.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:





Tick Tock Jim :D
Do you have any other skills?
I hear Sainsburys take on lets say, the older generation,i can just see you pushing those big lines of trolleys. :lol: :lol:
Human rights :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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During this time, they can be questioned at length and have no right to legal representation.


was that not changed after the Cadder case? The supreme court upheld an HRA appeal based on his being breached by being questioned without a lawyer.

edit: seems the right to remain silent may the next to go.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11627386

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Everyone has the right to have a lawyer available at interview.,

But the point here is the grey area between civil and criminal questioning by a cop.

The turkey is looking to interview on lax civil procedure, then use the information gleaned from it to pursue criminal charges. Qould any reasonable cop do this? Would any reasonable cop have to do this?

The council's letter to Garry even pointed this out, it pointed to the possibility of criminal charges.

The council has concentrated so much on trying to force Garry to kneel before them, to keep you lot compliant, it has lost the plot.

Had we not forced them to do so, they may just have recognised their folly in being petulant over this alleged incident.

What we've seen is a rush of blood to the council head.

And Frank, by playing along, has proved he is not fit for purpose. He is an embarrassment to every serving officer.

But then, you don't end up in the cab office because you're Inspctor Clouseau quality. Which says it all.

Come to think of it, given the real earning potential a law degree brings, you don't become a council solicitor if you're any good at what you do. Lack of ambition alone doesn't explain the foregoing of the fortune that can be made from the dripping roast that is the legal profession.

Of course there's still QC Armstrong. As a free market QC he obviously knows his onions. And does anyone doubt that he's cooking those onions with the dripping roast that is the cash he is harvesting from the public purse because of the hapless council solicitors playing at God with people's lives.

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Jasbar wrote:
the niggler in the woodpile


There are very few people left in the world who would feel comfortable using this phrase in this modern world, yet you seem at home with it. RACIST!

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the niggler in the woodpile


There are very few people left in the world who would feel comfortable using this phrase in this modern world, yet you seem at home with it. RACIST!


grandad, he said niggler, as in one who niggles. an apt description of himself.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Niggler

I read it the same way as you at first. :oops:

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Should've gone to specsavers Grandad :lol:

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I appoligise.

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So what was the complaint against skull? This lack of information being forwarded, IMO, is quite damning!

If you let us know what the complaint was, it may help others opinion of skulls misdemeanour. Whether is was unfounded or not!


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grandad wrote:
I appoligise.


There is no need!

We all know what the phrase is.

Sticking an "L" into the word to disguise it makes no difference.

"Niggler in the woodpile" is NOT a well known phrase, the other version is.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_boar ... s/107.html


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