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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:19 pm 
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Do you have an alternative form of reform :?:

Higher entry standards for both drivers and vehicles.

In Edinburgh we couldn't go higher


is that what they told you :D :D :D :D

I actually work a taxi, i see it and hear it and play the game

What about the 3 plates you sold AliT, what about the buyers you sold to, are you really happy with the knowledge these buyers could lose everything eusasmiles.zip

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ALI T wrote:
are you incapable of explaining why you have a problem with the act.
sec 12 in particular

The CGSA is wide open to abuse as you have abused it yourself, The CGSA allows the saturation and infiltration of the PHC market, The CGSA confuses our council as you have pointed out

A review and reform will bring clarity, an easier understanding of it, i think restricting through cost delivers

At this moment restricting through cost is the only solution on the table and if it works in New York it will work in Edinburgh

Explanation delivered

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but i thought thats what you wont dougie

higher prices guaranteed buy the council. :D :D :D :D :D

lets face it dougie you dont have a coherent argument because there isnt one

the law works just fine as regards taxis.

the courts have told it time and again that the councils got it wrong.

the legislation isn't written by idiots,and the sheriffs ain't idiots.

thats the system we have in this country

the law
its interpretation
its time in court
and its determination were a sheriff tells both parties how parliament intended it to be interpreted

thats how it works

[edited by admin] knows what kind of a mad parralel world you would like

a taxi driver bubble perhaps


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Private Reggie wrote:
ALI T wrote:
are you incapable of explaining why you have a problem with the act.
sec 12 in particular

The CGSA is wide open to abuse as you have abused it yourself, The CGSA allows the saturation and infiltration of the PHC market, The CGSA confuses our council as you have pointed out

A review and reform will bring clarity, an easier understanding of it, i think restricting through cost delivers

At this moment restricting through cost is the only solution on the table and if it works in New York it will work in Edinburgh

Explanation delivered

explanation delivered

yer having a laugh

you claim we need a solution

ok that implies that theres a problem with the current system

gonna tell us what that problem is,feel free to be as coherant as you please


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ALI T wrote:
but i thought thats what you wont dougie

higher prices guaranteed buy the council. :D :D :D :D :D

lets face it dougie you dont have a coherent argument because there isnt one

the law works just fine as regards taxis.

the courts have told it time and again that the councils got it wrong.

the legislation isn't written by idiots,and the sheriffs ain't idiots.

thats the system we have in this country

the law
its interpretation
its time in court
and its determination were a sheriff tells both parties how parliament intended it to be interpreted

thats how it works

[edited by admin] knows what kind of a mad parralel world you would like

a taxi driver bubble perhaps

The SNP have the mandate to change/reform the law, that's what we are pushing for with a reform of the CGSA

What's happening now hopefully will not be in the near future

The Carrott has been dangled

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Private Reggie wrote:
ALI T wrote:
are you incapable of explaining why you have a problem with the act.
sec 12 in particular

The CGSA is wide open to abuse as you have abused it yourself, The CGSA allows the saturation and infiltration of the PHC market, The CGSA confuses our council as you have pointed out

A review and reform will bring clarity, an easier understanding of it, i think restricting through cost delivers

At this moment restricting through cost is the only solution on the table and if it works in New York it will work in Edinburgh

Explanation delivered

Explanation delivered :roll:

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THE KLANSMAN wrote:
It,s been on CRT's website since 1pm yesterday! :roll:


Well I wouldn't draw attention to the fact that you didn't want to draw attention to it then :lol:


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Judgment also posted on the dark side :wink: :wink:


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Private Reggie wrote:
What about the 3 plates you sold AliT, what about the buyers you sold to, are you really happy with the knowledge these buyers could lose everything eusasmiles.zip


Er, may I interject here?

I am Dougie. I most definitely am.

In fact it chuffs me to the gutties.


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Private Reggie wrote:
ALI T wrote:
but i thought thats what you wont dougie

higher prices guaranteed buy the council. :D :D :D :D :D

lets face it dougie you dont have a coherent argument because there isnt one

the law works just fine as regards taxis.

the courts have told it time and again that the councils got it wrong.

the legislation isn't written by idiots,and the sheriffs ain't idiots.

thats the system we have in this country

the law
its interpretation
its time in court
and its determination were a sheriff tells both parties how parliament intended it to be interpreted

thats how it works

[edited by admin] knows what kind of a mad parralel world you would like

a taxi driver bubble perhaps

The SNP have the mandate to change/reform the law, that's what we are pushing for with a reform of the CGSA

What's happening now hopefully will not be in the near future

The Carrott has been dangled


With all due respect Reggie, the SNP have more important things to contend with just now and me thinks a reform of the CGSA aint one of them, try telling the ordinary Joe's in the street that their Priority is to change or reform the CGSA? how does that help the punters at the fuel pumps? paying their crippling utility bills? dealing with anti social behaviour? addressing issues in the NHS? I could go on and on, reforming the CGSA was not part of the SNP's Mandate for election to the house, so your Diatribe is exactly that '[edited by admin]' cant see Salmond and Co rushing to implement changes based on this recent Judgement it's of no importance to your precious party in fact if it was on a list of things to do it would always be bottom...... 8) 8)

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Private Reggie wrote:
The CGSA is wide open to abuse


Nobody has been found abusing the CGSA more than CEC.

The Act works.
It just doesn't work the way some of you would like it to.

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What would be nice if someone from the anti plates being issued brigade actually put forward a coherent viewpoint as to where the Sheriff got it wrong.

In particular his views on the IPL. 8-[

Insignificant

Depends on your definition of 'insignificant'.

The Sheriff has stated that the council acted illegally by issuing those 27 plates via the IPL, and those three plates without comparing those applications with the other 100+.

So in his view those 30 plates were issued illegally.

Now there is no chance of those plates being taken back, but all those that applied have a legitimate claim to those plates, and to have their applications dealt with in a legal manner.

The Sheriff mentioned Doyle, where the court said that it would be impossible to assess previous applications as time has moved on since they originally applied, and granted them all.

So my conclusion is that every single person that had a live application when councillors decided who to issue the 30 plates to (illegally) has a very good case to receive a plate.

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http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/E.04719.00 ... 0Noble.pdf

Could this judgment have an effect in other restricted areas of Scotland????


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skippy41 wrote:
http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/E.04719.00004%20-%20K%20Donald%20v.%20CEC%20-%20Judgement%20Sh%20A%20Noble.pdf

Could this judgment have an effect in other restricted areas of Scotland????

If they issue plates via a closed waiting list then yes. Especially if the list has been closed for neigh on 20 years and, IMO, already has existing plate holders on. How on earth can that be viewed a fair?

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