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I am sure you have all heard about these rights that people are supposed to have. You know, your right to the presumption of innocence before guilt. The right not to be forced to become a witness against yourself, or should I say, your right of silence when faced with a malicious allegation. Your right to a fair hearing, to be judged by people who are impartial to the process of deciding a persons innocence or guilt. Then there's the little matter of corroboration when deciding that some fact or statement is true. I could go on … Well none of this applies to taxi drivers.


Do you need me to explain any of the above Dougie?

If you had any dignity Dougie, the above would be as unacceptable to you as it is to me.

Numpty :roll:

I have nothing on me to be silent about, an accused who claims his right to silence is hiding something in my opinion anyway.

Skull you could have your dignity intact if you actually stood up for what you believed, you say you are innocent :?: but refuse to defend yourself in a way that you could at least stand up for your belief that you where innocent, all it would have took is for you to attend the meeting with Frank Smith and with a witness but you actually chose to compromise your dignity by allowing your pride to get in the way, i feel sorry for you but at the same time i'm starting to see the bigger picture with you, you do believe you are a superior being, Skull we don't want you telling us we are slaves, we are happy to play the cards we are dealt with, i will though alway's have the right to fold that hand and move on to another, playing only the cards i'm happy to play.

Again good luck for the future but remember you played your cards to lose :wink:

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I have nothing on me to be silent about, an accused who claims his right to silence is hiding something in my opinion anyway.


What a t*** :roll:

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That's rich coming from you sheep shagger you've got a straw up the skull erse up to the hilt :roll:


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I am sure you have all heard about these rights that people are supposed to have. You know, your right to the presumption of innocence before guilt. The right not to be forced to become a witness against yourself, or should I say, your right of silence when faced with a malicious allegation. Your right to a fair hearing, to be judged by people who are impartial to the process of deciding a persons innocence or guilt. Then there's the little matter of corroboration when deciding that some fact or statement is true. I could go on … Well none of this applies to taxi drivers.


Do you need me to explain any of the above Dougie?

If you had any dignity Dougie, the above would be as unacceptable to you as it is to me.

Numpty :roll:

I have nothing on me to be silent about, an accused who claims his right to silence is hiding something in my opinion anyway.

Skull you could have your dignity intact if you actually stood up for what you believed, you say you are innocent :?: but refuse to defend yourself in a way that you could at least stand up for your belief that you where innocent, all it would have took is for you to attend the meeting with Frank Smith and with a witness but you actually chose to compromise your dignity by allowing your pride to get in the way, i feel sorry for you but at the same time i'm starting to see the bigger picture with you, you do believe you are a superior being, Skull we don't want you telling us we are slaves, we are happy to play the cards we are dealt with, i will though alway's have the right to fold that hand and move on to another, playing only the cards i'm happy to play.

Again good luck for the future but remember you played your cards to lose :wink:


Dougie, what don't you understand about the presumption innocence? I don't have to defend myself against an accusation if I choose not to. I have a right of silence. It is up to your accuser to prove your guilt. If you speak to an accusation in such circumstances you become a witness against yourself. Presumption of Innocence Dougie, remember? If I know the accusation is a pack of lies and lacks corroboration to prove that some fact or statement is true. The burden of proof remains with my accuser. I don't have to prove my innocence as I am already afforded the presumption of innocence.


If your accuser can't prove your guilt, and you can't prove your innocence – it's his word against yours. How does speaking to the accusation change a thing?



Taxi drivers have no right of equality before the law as they are not afforded the presumption of innocence before guilt. The burden of proof is placed upon you to prove your innocence. You are forced to become a witness against yourself when faced with an allegation because you are denied your right of silence. The council needs no corroboration when establishing a statement or fact is true. They can simply believe what they like. You don't get a fair hearing because councillors are influenced by their political agendas. Therefore, there is no impartiality of the process.

Dougie, you have no dignity, and I am superior to you because you are a fecking idiot. It doesn't get any more complicated than that.

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Can you see any councillors, council employees or lawyers allowing themselves to be subjected to any of the above and then claim that their dignity remains intact?

It simply wouldn't happen. The law applies differently to taxi drivers because they have no dignity to speak of and are treated accordingly.

People like you are [edited by admin]* Dougie, and you prove it almost every time you post or open your mouth. :-|


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That's rich coming from you sheep shagger you've got a straw up the skull erse up to the hilt :roll:


Another t*** happy to take it backwards from the council. :lol:

You couldn't spell dignity, let alone have any.

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That's rich coming from you sheep shagger you've got a straw up the skull erse up to the hilt :roll:


Another t*** happy to take it backwards from the council. :lol:

You couldn't spell dignity, let alone have any.


You do realise. I am attempting to educate these numpties. I wouldn't want you to think this was a real debate about one's dignity. I've come to understand that when it comes to Dougie Smith, Toots and Dug you've got to take it one step at a time, and you've got to make sure they are little steps.

Unfortunately, Dougie, Toots and Dug are fairly representative of your average taxi driver, but we can always live in hope. :) :wink:


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Skull wrote:
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That's rich coming from you sheep shagger you've got a straw up the skull erse up to the hilt :roll:


Another t*** happy to take it backwards from the council. :lol:

You couldn't spell dignity, let alone have any.


You do realise. I am attempting to educate these numpties. I wouldn't want you to think this was a real debate about one's dignity. I've come to understand that when it comes to Dougie Smith, Toots and Dug you've got to take it one step at a time, and you've got to make sure they are little steps.

Unfortunately, Dougie, Toots and Dug are fairly representative of your average taxi driver, but we can always live in hope. :) :wink:


Wtf did I say in my post to warrant being called a numpty, yet again :roll: I don't see how you can think I'm fairly representative of your average taxi driver either, considering you know me not

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Deacon Blue had a hit with 'Dignity' did'nt they ?


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Skull wrote:
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I am sure you have all heard about these rights that people are supposed to have. You know, your right to the presumption of innocence before guilt. The right not to be forced to become a witness against yourself, or should I say, your right of silence when faced with a malicious allegation. Your right to a fair hearing, to be judged by people who are impartial to the process of deciding a persons innocence or guilt. Then there's the little matter of corroboration when deciding that some fact or statement is true. I could go on … Well none of this applies to taxi drivers.


Do you need me to explain any of the above Dougie?

If you had any dignity Dougie, the above would be as unacceptable to you as it is to me.

Numpty :roll:

I have nothing on me to be silent about, an accused who claims his right to silence is hiding something in my opinion anyway.

Skull you could have your dignity intact if you actually stood up for what you believed, you say you are innocent :?: but refuse to defend yourself in a way that you could at least stand up for your belief that you where innocent, all it would have took is for you to attend the meeting with Frank Smith and with a witness but you actually chose to compromise your dignity by allowing your pride to get in the way, i feel sorry for you but at the same time i'm starting to see the bigger picture with you, you do believe you are a superior being, Skull we don't want you telling us we are slaves, we are happy to play the cards we are dealt with, i will though alway's have the right to fold that hand and move on to another, playing only the cards i'm happy to play.

Again good luck for the future but remember you played your cards to lose :wink:


Dougie, what don't you understand about the presumption innocence? I don't have to defend myself against an accusation if I choose not to. I have a right of silence. It is up to your accuser to prove your guilt. If you speak to an accusation in such circumstances you become a witness against yourself. Presumption of Innocence Dougie, remember? If I know the accusation is a pack of lies and lacks corroboration to prove that some fact or statement is true. The burden of proof remains with my accuser. I don't have to prove my innocence as I am already afforded the presumption of innocence.


If your accuser can't prove your guilt, and you can't prove your innocence – it's his word against yours. How does speaking to the accusation change a thing?



Taxi drivers have no right of equality before the law as they are not afforded the presumption of innocence before guilt. The burden of proof is placed upon you to prove your innocence. You are forced to become a witness against yourself when faced with an allegation because you are denied your right of silence. The council needs no corroboration when establishing a statement or fact is true. They can simply believe what they like. You don't get a fair hearing because councillors are influenced by their political agendas. Therefore, there is no impartiality of the process.

Dougie, you have no dignity, and I am superior to you because you are a fecking idiot. It doesn't get any more complicated than that.

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You give up your right to the presumption of innocence by staying silent :wink:

I was on Jury service and a Herion dealer used his right to remain silent, he got 7 years :lol: He said to the judge that he could do that 7 years standing on his head :shock: The judge gave him another 7 years saying you will need another 7 years to allow you time to get back on your feet :lol:

Ok the second part of that i made up :lol:

Skulll your in the minority with that opinion :roll:

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You give up your right to the presumption of innocence by staying silent


FFS. Fascism is alive and well in Edinburgh.

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Private Reggie wrote:
Skull wrote:
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I am sure you have all heard about these rights that people are supposed to have. You know, your right to the presumption of innocence before guilt. The right not to be forced to become a witness against yourself, or should I say, your right of silence when faced with a malicious allegation. Your right to a fair hearing, to be judged by people who are impartial to the process of deciding a persons innocence or guilt. Then there's the little matter of corroboration when deciding that some fact or statement is true. I could go on … Well none of this applies to taxi drivers.


Do you need me to explain any of the above Dougie?

If you had any dignity Dougie, the above would be as unacceptable to you as it is to me.

Numpty :roll:

I have nothing on me to be silent about, an accused who claims his right to silence is hiding something in my opinion anyway.

Skull you could have your dignity intact if you actually stood up for what you believed, you say you are innocent :?: but refuse to defend yourself in a way that you could at least stand up for your belief that you where innocent, all it would have took is for you to attend the meeting with Frank Smith and with a witness but you actually chose to compromise your dignity by allowing your pride to get in the way, i feel sorry for you but at the same time i'm starting to see the bigger picture with you, you do believe you are a superior being, Skull we don't want you telling us we are slaves, we are happy to play the cards we are dealt with, i will though alway's have the right to fold that hand and move on to another, playing only the cards i'm happy to play.

Again good luck for the future but remember you played your cards to lose :wink:


Dougie, what don't you understand about the presumption innocence? I don't have to defend myself against an accusation if I choose not to. I have a right of silence. It is up to your accuser to prove your guilt. If you speak to an accusation in such circumstances you become a witness against yourself. Presumption of Innocence Dougie, remember? If I know the accusation is a pack of lies and lacks corroboration to prove that some fact or statement is true. The burden of proof remains with my accuser. I don't have to prove my innocence as I am already afforded the presumption of innocence.


If your accuser can't prove your guilt, and you can't prove your innocence – it's his word against yours. How does speaking to the accusation change a thing?



Taxi drivers have no right of equality before the law as they are not afforded the presumption of innocence before guilt. The burden of proof is placed upon you to prove your innocence. You are forced to become a witness against yourself when faced with an allegation because you are denied your right of silence. The council needs no corroboration when establishing a statement or fact is true. They can simply believe what they like. You don't get a fair hearing because councillors are influenced by their political agendas. Therefore, there is no impartiality of the process.

Dougie, you have no dignity, and I am superior to you because you are a fecking idiot. It doesn't get any more complicated than that.

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You give up your right to the presumption of innocence by staying silent :wink:

I was on Jury service and a Herion dealer used his right to remain silent, he got 7 years :lol: He said to the judge that he could do that 7 years standing on his head :shock: The judge gave him another 7 years saying you will need another 7 years to allow you time to get back on your feet :lol:

Ok the second part of that i made up :lol:

Skulll your in the minority with that opinion :roll:


“You give up your right to the presumption of innocence by staying silent”

Where did you get this little gem? You just made it up didn't you?

You can only be convicted of a crime if the prosecution can establish evidential facts that prove your guilt. If all they had was an accusation the case would never make it into court.

Your heroin dealer was not convicted because he exercised his right of silence. He was convicted on evidence that proved criminal behavior, ie drug dealing.

The heroin dealer nor anyone else, for that matter, can be convicted of a crime because they exercise their right of silence. And no one can be convicted of a crime based on an accusation alone.

So Dougie, exercising your right of silence makes you guilty of any crime you are accused of because you failed to prove your innocence against an accusation alone. In this case, the burden of proof lies with the accused to prove his innocence. Is this what you are claiming?

Dougie, your posts could be used as proof you are mentally retarded, while it might not constitute a criminal offence it does cast doubt on your fitness to drive a taxi. I've always said that taxi driver should be forced to sit I.Q tests to prevent people like you, entering the trade.

Dougie, you are a lunatic. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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gusmac wrote:
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You give up your right to the presumption of innocence by staying silent


FFS. Fascism is alive and well in Edinburgh.



Would you consider it safe for Dougie Smith to pick up your family members after what he's written on this forum?

I think this is a man on the edge, scary. :shock:


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Dougie, if it's the Cab Inspector job to protect the public then he is failing in his duties by not having you psychologically evaluated before allowing you behind the wheel of a cab. Upon reading your posts any sane person would immediately doubt your fitness to drive.

I really don't believe you are safe to transport members of the public, and if you are not a direct threat to the public then you are most definitely a danger to yourself.

Do yourself a favour and stop posting on this forum.

If any of Dougie's family or "friends" are reading his posts then find him help. :-|


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